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i want to have a go at some copper pipe soldering. i have had some practice but i seem to get messy joints. also how do you judge when it is hot enough. should you hold the solder on why it melts or just dab it on in several places?
 
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Go to utube type in soldering and BINGO a video step by step how to solder i just learnt :LOL: :LOL:
 
Soldering really is down to confidence. The more you do it the better it will get. I used to avoid soldering on jobs by bending pipe as much as possible but once I got the hang of soldering I quite enjoyed it from then on.

If you keep touching the solder onto the fitting whilst heating eventually the solder will flow.

Athing I found that helped initially was to solder as much as possible off site by marking the positions of the fittings, taking them outside and soldering them in safety. You can then get a good look at the joint afterwards to see if it has been successful.
 
Always clean the joint thoroughly - all surfaces.

If you can, solder with the joint vertical - if you plan the work intelligently you'll hardly ever have to solder anything in situ, and when you do you can 'spot' the joint to fix it, then dismantle and put the pipework in a well lit, well ventilated, safe, upright position.
 
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if i have a large bottle of propane(i think) big red bottle.
What would be a good torch to buy. These diy ones seem useless.
 
The top of the range Bernzomatic one that B&Q does will suit you perfectly, although it might not fit your current gas bottle.
 
well i bought a BERNZOMATIC ts1100, but rather than a nice single blue flame, it puts out three, i just find it hard consentrating the flame.
what torch could i get to fit a 3.9kg propane bottle, atleast that way id get plenty of gas
 
Get the 7000 or the 8000. You won't look back.
 
ok, thanks, so i could use my propane bottle with the ts 7000/8000, think i'll get one, will be nice to get the hang of soldering myself.
 
Hi guys, how on earth do you get solder in areas which you cant reach.

For example say you have a joint which is near a wall. You can solder most of it but the part which is next to wall as well as the underside, how do you get solder in these parts?

Btw Im referring to a pipe that is horizontal.

Furthermore, how would you solder a joint vertically. The top joint on a straight connector would be straightforward but the bottom joint would be difficult as the solder would have nothing to sit on
 
Hi guys, how on earth do you get solder in areas which you cant reach.

For example say you have a joint which is near a wall. You can solder most of it but the part which is next to wall as well as the underside, how do you get solder in these parts?

Btw Im referring to a pipe that is horizontal.

Furthermore, how would you solder a joint vertically. The top joint on a straight connector would be straightforward but the bottom joint would be difficult as the solder would have nothing to sit on

simple! you use flux
 
Furthermore, how would you solder a joint vertically.

The same way you solder any other joint - you clean the pipe and the inside of the fitting, brush a light layer of flux on the pipe end, assemble, wipe off excess flux (kitchen roll is good), heat the joint with a blowlamp, and apply solder at one point only.

Properly done, the solder will draw itself into the joint no matter which way it's facing, even upward.

Common errors for novices are not getting the joint clean enough, and overheating it.
 
i agree with moggat, the trick is JUST enough heat and JUST enough flux, i have seen too many fittings that are almost purple due to excessive heat which makes a poor joint, if you can it is better to practice on small bits of pipe and different fittings, i generally use pre soldered fittings which are more expensive but better in my opinion, properly cleaned and fluxed you simply heat and watch for the solder to appear as a nice even ring round the fitting you can if you want touch the solder onto the edge just to add a little but it shouldn't be required, but for the purposes of practicing and getting better you should use end feed which are basically plain pipe sockets
 

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