Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

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I am surprised there hasn't been at least one terrorist 'incident' in Russia already, perhaps there have been? However i would be sure whoever committed such would ensure there was media coverage captured over it. Very surprised though.


On another note i feel utterly ashamed in hindsight of our involvement in the middle-east how we were instrumental in harming so many innocent people ourselves. I see Tony Blair mention yesterday he feels he possibly made wrong decisions. Id be very careful if i was him, to me he's as much a war criminal as the likes of Putin.[/QUOTE]


Good post

Re terror attack in Moscow - Putins working on it I guess as they did to the Chechens or whatever they are called.

Re middle east - Iraq for me and I've posted it here I felt awful for falling for the lies of the wes and in particular the UK & USA
as clearly there we no WMD'

Re Libya, Gaddafi was not a nice man but our lot loved him up to the last minute then joined in the attack via NATO a "defence entity" and turned that country into the cesspit and now where gangsta are killing, looting, bleackmailing, raping, killing others they do not agree with because of whatever
 
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An article I posted a few days ago and reading it again sheds light on the causes behind Putin's invasion. It is Putin's invasion and not a Russian invasion as he is nasty and more.

Quotes from Daily Mails P Hitchens and the link to this respected newspaper. I fully agree with the points below yet too many are afraid to ask these questions. Putin is wrong but think about what led up to it. In my judgment, they are all as bad as each other ie the politicians and the ordinary people and most of the troops and their families lose out.

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In a country crammed with Russians, they were trying to make Russian a second-class language.

Russians who had lived there happily for decades were pressured to take Ukrainian citizenship and adopt Ukrainian versions of their Christian names.

The schools were promoting a national hero, Stepan Bandera, who Russians strongly disliked and regarded as a terrorist.

And they were teaching history which often had an anti-Russian tinge. Quite a few people told me they felt put upon by these policies. Why couldn't they just be left alone?

Until that point, Ukraine had been a reasonably harmonious country in its 20-odd years of existence.

I would like to end with two quotations. The first is from the American Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman who said: 'I am sick and tired of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.'a reasonably harmonious country in its 20-odd years of existence. After that visit I saw big trouble coming, both in the Crimea and in the Don Basin, where I also travelled that year.

I tire of being told that Nato is purely defensive alliance when we know it bombed Serbia in 1999, incidentally killing civilians, when Serbia had not attacked a Nato member.

I also don't recall Libya attacking a Nato member before that 'defensive' alliance launched the air war on Tripoli which also killed civilians, children included, and turned that country into a cauldron of chaos, benefiting nobody.

And then there's the other thing that sticks in my gullet. The countries of the West have egged Ukraine on into a confrontation with Russia which has predictably ended in Putin's barbaric invasion.

But while we stand and cheer at a safe distance, the Ukrainians are the ones who get shelled, bombed, besieged and driven from their homes. Is this honourable? Does sentimental praise for their bravery make up for it?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...oming-Thats-wont-join-carnival-hypocrisy.html

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Thanks
 
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One of the corridors out isn't working. It wont be the Russians as one of theirs.
 
The Humanitarian said:
In a country crammed with Russians, they were trying to make Russian a second-class language.
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Untrue

I’ve posted this already, but you avoid answering

How Russia weaponizes the language issue in Ukraine




Despite the upgrade of Ukrainian following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the language has continued to play second fiddle to Russian throughout much of the country and in many aspects of everyday life. Ever since the 1990s, efforts to regulate and promote the use of Ukrainian in place of Russian have proved politically explosive and have come to symbolize independent Ukraine’s post-Soviet identity crisis. Meanwhile, the national debate on the language issue has reflected lingering divisions within Ukrainian society over attitudes towards the dominant role played by Russia in the country’s past



https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...is-the-only-winner-of-ukraines-language-wars/
 
The Humanitarian said:
And then there's the other thing that sticks in my gullet. The countries of the West have egged Ukraine on into a confrontation with Russia
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WRONG

the aggression is all due to Putin


The Humanitarian said:
And they were teaching history which often had an anti-Russian tinge
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WRONG


The Humanitarian said:
I tire of being told that Nato is purely defensive alliance when we know it bombed Serbia in 1999, incidentally killing civilians, when Serbia had not attacked a Nato member
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WRONG

that was defensive to stop ethnic cleansing of Kosovo.
 
Curiously I picked up another book for my presleep reading yesterday. Spooky - it applies to Ukraine post WWII. Fiction but describes an east west split centred on Kiev. Some Ukrainians fighting in German uniforms against Russians. So looked on the wiki around this time. Looks like the place has been something of a mess for rather a long time.

A comment on the videos being shown of damage. There are plenty of shots of bomb hits during WWII in the UK on the web to see what they look like. A lot of what has been shown is more like blast damage. Not all though. It fits in with what Russia appears to be doing. A lot when people are in shelters or during curfews. They are alienating their own supporters in some places.
 
Report in the “ I” that there have been three direct attempts to kill the ukranian president
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one by Russian mercenaries ???

Ukranian officials will not release details of exactly what was attempted
 
Also suggestions ? Comments that the Russian army has put to much emphasis on sticking up on high tech weapons and over looked the basics
Logistics
like decent trucks for ammo and supplies

basic vehicles to actually deliver equipment to the front

so on and so forth
 
If it’s putins intent to occupy Ukraine

than he will have to significantly up his man power / troop levels
 
As for the Indians

they will not be happy with Khan brown nosing Putin in the Kremlin
 
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