Until disproved as constants in the futureSome things are universal constants.
Until disproved as constants in the futureSome things are universal constants.
I think that's a fallacy. There are lots of situations, particularly for novice drivers, when the driver doesn't have enough local knowledge and/or street sense, and a guide as to safe maximum speed for the road is useful.If all drivers drove appropriately there would not be a need for speed limits.
This statement is, of course, quite accurate.If all drivers drove appropriately there would not be a need for speed limits.
Probably also true but there is far more to driving appropriately than the enforcing of speed limits and, whilst the focus is on cameras and revenue rather than more police on the streets, we will never make the roads safer.Apart from that, there will never be a time when all drivers can be trusted to drive appropriately without enforcement of speed limits.
My point exactly - I completely support low and ruthlessly-enforced speed limits where the situation dictates - I don't support speed limits set far below what is appropriate for a desolate stretch of tarmac without even a sheep to witness it's users, only for the reason of generating revenue. It happens - why else would Plod sun himself, laser in hand, on the road I mentioned earlier?Probably also true but there is far more to driving appropriately than the enforcing of speed limits and, whilst the focus is on cameras and revenue rather than more police on the streets, we will never make the roads safer.
Despite the causal link between speed and death when impacts occur, dangerous/careless driving causes the impacts to occur not speed per-se.
I drove along said stretch of road this afternoon, and as if to support my theory of speed-limit-set-merely-to-trick-cash-out-of-drivers, the speed limit actually rises to 40 as you approach an island with an office building off it - the limit then drops to 30 as you disappear off into the countryside.....
whilst the focus is on cameras and revenue rather than more police on the streets, we will never make the roads safer.
MW
Or ... Let's get our heads out of our ar**es and realise that there is more to road safety than speeding and try to address all of the issues and not just one of them.
As I said, speeding doesn't cause accidents ... Bad driving does and whilst we are all so pre-occupied with speed nothing is being done about the causes of accidents.
Just take a look at your own experiences, how many accidents have you seen and what were their causes?
I've seen quite a few and they've all been caused by poor driving not speeding ... People driving too close and going up the back end of someone in front ... Driving into the side of some fool who crashes a red light ... Changing lane without looking and driving into the side of someone who happens to be next to them at the time et al.
I have never seen an accident resulting from speeding per-se?
MW
Not necessarily, the too high a speed could still be within the limit i.e. going round a corner at 50mph in a 60mph limit ... Careless driving not speed is the cause here.A person going into a corner at too high a speed and losing control of the vehicle crashes. Cause of the accident..........speed
I think that's a fallacy. There are lots of situations, particularly for novice drivers, when the driver doesn't have enough local knowledge and/or street sense, and a guide as to safe maximum speed for the road is useful.If all drivers drove appropriately there would not be a need for speed limits.
Apart from that, there will never be a time when all drivers can be trusted to drive appropriately without enforcement of speed limits.
Well pardon me for thinking that you were outlining a real-life proposition.If the driver does not have sufficient knowledge of the road or the locale then the driver should compensate for this and drive appropriately - if this means driving at below the posted limit then so be it, it doesn't take a genius to realise this. The reason we have speed limits is that all drivers do not drive appropriately - that is why my point is preceded with 'if'.