Sunderland gets what it voted for...

[ReganAndCarter]

Hardly a dividend of Brexit. Aren't the government paying Nissan hundreds of millions of pounds to open the factory? Maybe if we stayed in The EU Nissan wouldn't have needed to be bribed to keep factories in The UK.

We could have dozens of shiny new factories if we bought the jobs with billions of taxpayers' money.

Hope we have the lorry drivers trained up in time.

 

[Bodd]

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[noseall]

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Nissan was offered secret state aid to cope with Brexit, minister concedes | Nissan | The Guardian


Nissan asks for £100million boost to UK supply industry | Auto Express

 

[Doug99]

Hardly a dividend of Brexit. Aren't the government paying Nissan hundreds of millions of pounds to open the factory? Maybe if we stayed in The EU Nissan wouldn't have needed to be bribed to keep factories in The UK.

We could have dozens of shiny new factories if we bought the jobs with billions of taxpayers' money.

Hope we have the lorry drivers trained up in time.

Are you suggesting the EU doesn't provide financial inducements for Nissan and other non EU companies to invest?

 

[fillyboy]

Are you suggesting the EU doesn't provide financial inducements for Nissan and other non EU companies to invest?

1 billion euros to Tesla from Germany, they obviously outbid us.

Tesla set for at least 1 billion euros in German subsidies - Business Insider | Reuters

 

[Notch7]

Are you suggesting the EU doesn't provide financial inducements for Nissan and other non EU companies to invest?

So the Nissan gigafactory would've been possible without Brexit.

 

[Notch7]

1 billion euros to Tesla from Germany, they obviously outbid us.

Tesla set for at least 1 billion euros in German subsidies - Business Insider | Reuters

So the Nissan gigafactory is not a Brexit bonus, it could've been done anyway.

 

[Notch7]

1 billion euros to Tesla from Germany, they obviously outbid us.

Tesla set for at least 1 billion euros in German subsidies - Business Insider | Reuters

No, it's better strategically.

"With manufacturing facilities in North America, China, and Europe to serve those major regional markets"

EU is a major regional market.

UK is not....it is no longer part of the worlds biggest customs union.

 

[fillyboy]

So the Nissan gigafactory would've been possible without Brexit.

So the Nissan gigafactory is not a Brexit bonus, it could've been done anyway.

Well, yes and yes but I think you're getting a little confused here. I for one, and certainly others never claimed otherwise, it was the remainer faction, yourself included who claimed we would lose Nissan if we left the EU. Took quite a delight in doing so as well if I recall.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

 

[fillyboy]

Maybe if we stayed in The EU Nissan wouldn't have needed to be bribed to keep factories in The UK.

1 billion euros to Tesla from Germany, they obviously outbid us.

No, it's better strategically.

"With manufacturing facilities in North America, China, and Europe to serve those major regional markets"

EU is a major regional market.

UK is not....it is no longer part of the worlds biggest customs union.

You're getting yourself confused again, my response was to R & C claiming he we'd stayed in the EU financial inducements wouldn't be required, hence I pointed out Germany's inducement to Tesla.
The gigafactories are new, huge investment required, of course governments are going to provide aid, all Governments. Investment means jobs.

 

[Notch7]

t was the remainer faction, yourself included who claimed we would lose Nissan if we left the EU.

Typical lie from a brexiter.

I said if there was no deal.

 

[Notch7]

You're getting yourself confused again, my response was to R & C claiming he we'd stayed in the EU financial inducements wouldn't be required, hence I pointed out Germany's inducement to Tesla.
The gigafactories are new, huge investment required, of course governments are going to provide aid, all Governments. Investment means jobs.

You said: "we were outbid"

But the simple fact is, UK is no longer a great place for investment.....you know dumb trade barriers as voted for by you

 

[Notch7]

I hope this clarifies things for you

Well it underlines the fact Brexiters are dishonest.

 

[SirGalahad]

Hardly a dividend of Brexit. Aren't the government paying Nissan hundreds of millions of pounds to open the factory? Maybe if we stayed in The EU Nissan wouldn't have needed to be bribed to keep factories in The UK.

We could have dozens of shiny new factories if we bought the jobs with billions of taxpayers' money.

Hope we have the lorry drivers trained up in time.

Always the description and never the details.

Our Brexit deal meant quota free and tariff free trade in goods (services can f off (shame as we had a trade surplus in services). To comply with that we need to provide certificates of origin - the car has to have a certain percentage of its parts made in the UK - you cant just bring in parts from outside the EU and assemble it and stick a made in UK logo on it to meet Certificate of Origin requirements.

So Nissan had a decision to make - if it wants to sell cars in the EU - shift production or build car batteries to meet CoO requirements.

Remember our Brexit deal meant we kept the EU trade surpus in goods with the UK but sacrificed our trade surplus in services.

 

[fillyboy]

Remember our Brexit deal meant we kept the EU trade surpus in goods with the UK but sacrificed our trade surplus in services.

Are you sure?, I find it hard to believe we no longer have a trade surplus on financial services, albeit marginally smaller.