It's been doing that for ages!
Supply crisis: just 27 fuel tanker drivers from EU apply for emergency visas
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All of these Brexit issues and poor Government management like not replacing rough storage put us at greater exposure to spikes in demand and supply. So when things settle down, the arch Brexxers will say, you see it wasn't as bad as everyone thought.
It's like removing a course of bricks on a flood wall. Initially they will say, look nothing changes, so what if a little floodwater comes over. Then things settle and they keep removing the bricks on the wall until that day when a flood hits, after which they will say it was worth it because they got to remove the bricks.
Suffering is devotion to them.
All depends on the level of water you voted for.
In a way yes,
But it's also government failure including local government.
The haulage industry is as much to blame because they don't provide the funds to the drivers in terms of expenses, in turn truck stops rarely get used so close down, land sells to developers etc. The haulage industry also havnt been investing in skills instead relying on cheaper foreign labour, which is fine while we are part of the EU, but they knew this was coming for years.
Local planning and infrastructure make no plans, and the government don't have any specific guidelines.
A free market is a good idea, but it can not be relied upon to regulate itself, profits will always take precedence.
Unfortunately in my view there are too many dodgy dealings within government to govern effectively.
Now we appear to be coming towards the end of the pandemic, the government are looking more and more inept than ever.
They genuinely have no plan for the future, no plan to control inflation, everyone's interest appears to be solely in increasing the cost of everything forgetting all those who are already on the edge.
What's happened we may aswell have put Corbyn in charge with his inflation inducing barking mad schemes.
If things carry on like this the public will be voting with their feet. The Tories appear to believe they are invincible..
Only thing I am glad about is that brexit is done and we can move forward. Whether it's good or bad it's done now.
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I think people are looking beyond petrol shortages.
This is a supply crisis fuel tanker driver thread though.
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What you will find is economic models have about 40 years lifescyle and the post war boom years ended after Bretton Woods and Oil price shock, where wages rose, people could get well paying jobs and inflation was controlled. In the 80s neo liberal policies were unleashed - Thatcher and Reagan with deregulation and increasing financialisation of the economy. This has lead to inflation, more temporary work, inequality and rising asset prices.
A market that allocates resources efficiently requires entry and exit and subsiutes and compliments, when land is not taxed this creates peverse incentives to land bank and horde it as there is no holding cost to land that is not built upon.
When the papers sell the threat of inflation due to Government spending they are very quiet when inflation happens through cost increases. Inflation through higher Government spending boosts incomes.
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Oh I see.
So when I went past my three local fuel stations on Monday and noticed that 2 were closed and the 3rd had a queue well over 100m long (yes, really), that was because they all had petrol but 2 were choosing not to sell any.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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So fewer tanker miles driven, but wed actually need more tankers and drivers.
Plus who is going to pay to acquire the land, possibly involving compulsory purchase, maybe of houses too, and construction costs, to build all those facilities, and to build the roads needed for the tankers to get to and fro?
Given a privately owned rail track infrastructure, and privately owned train operating companies, do you envisage the government forcing them to invest in their side of the facilities and capability, or just provide financial "incentives" (which woud have to be substantial and distorted, as companies no longer do long-term investment return planning)?
Yes. What day did you say again? What day is it today? I’ve been out again since and went past 4 more. All selling fuel, no queues. There you go, all cleared up for you. You’re welcome.
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You think?
Now we're 40 years on we need a new plan
when i was a train driver at redhill 30 years ago we worked oil trains to selsdon[croydon ] earlswood[rehill] salfords [3 miles from redhill and gatwick airport] gatwick airport 'horsham ' gally hill [hastings ] high brooms [tonbridge/tunbridge wells ] chichester
all within 50 miles off each other or about a 25 mile radius off three bridges
You think Brexit is not done then? You still think you can go back to being in the EU?
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Captain Nemesis
I know that one day we will.
The lunacy of leaving will become harder and harder to ignore, and as more and more of the people who voted for the lunacy shuffle off, and are replaced by people not shackled to an illusory past, the desire to rejoin will grow and grow.
The lunacy of leaving will become harder and harder to ignore, and as more and more of the people who voted for the lunacy shuffle off, and are replaced by people not shackled to an illusory past, the desire to rejoin will grow and grow.
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