Supporting of pipes

[Dave Fee]

I have recently had my bathroom gutted and newly fitted by a local firm. In the vanity unit I have plastic pipe running round the room then copper pipe coming up inside the unit to a vale then a flexi hose to the tap , both hot and cold. my question is should the copper pipe be clipped so as to provide support ? At the moment there is a slight leak and since they will be back in the new year to replace a damaged wall panel behind the vanity unit I can mention the leak and also ask for some clips .

Thanks for any help/advise on this.

 

[Jurassicspark]

Ideally, pipes (especially water mains) should be clipped to prevent water hammering when turning off the tap. Would be a great idea to mention if they are going to return, only takes a minute.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Have you got pictures

 

[Madrab]

Not difficult, if the vanity unit is of decent construction whereby it has a solid back and not a piece of 3mm hardboard, to add a couple of clip overs to hold the pipework securely.

If the back of the carcass isn't thick/strong enough then it probably wouldn't support clipping.

 

[Dave Fee]

Took a couple of pictures, the kitchen paper is because the joint is weeping, good job it's coming back out. Not sure if the silver nut is a spacer or dropped by mistake. My point is that the copper pipes coming from the plastic elbow and tee below are loose and could cause further leak problems. Any suggestions I've made previously have not always been readily accepted so I thought I'd get some other opinions.

 

[RrogerD]

The pipes haven't been clipped as normal because of the extra hassle and risk of drilling into the porcelain tile. I have the same in mine. I'd suggest, get yourself a double pipe clip, clip it to the pipes and then secure in place onto the face of the tile with a dob of sealant. Obvs, support whilst the sealant dries.

You do have a bit of issue visually in that the pipes aren't vertical, due to the below-floor pipes not extending far enough together before turning vertical. It may mean that you use two separate single pipe clips rather than a double.

 

[johnny2007]

Nut used as a spacer?
Maybe.
Or they just dropped it there and forgot about it.
Pick it up and if it's jammed in there it means it's acting as a spacer.
If loose, just remove.
Those service valves are the cheap nasty ones which leak when you need to service your tap.
I prefer the chunkier full bore ones from pegler.
I don't understand why they used copper on that last stretch having done the rest in plastic.
They could've simply continued with plastic and fit thumb turn plastic service valves.
In any case, those pipes need clipping to the wall behind.

 

[Madrab]

@Dave Fee , is that wet wall at the the back of that, looks like it's screwed through the plinth bottom left and right? Even if it is tile then no reason not to drill it and add a couple of clips IMO

Looks like a cabinet was used that had no service void and hacked into the bottom of it. They could at least have created a little surround or used some white plastic facing to cover up that hole in the base and back, just to tidy it up. Poor finishing IMO.

Bottom nut on the ISO may need a nip up, either that or they've cut the seal in the flexi's end by screwing them directly onto an ISO without flattening the faces on them.

 

[dilalio]

thumb turn plastic service valves

Awful feckin things!

 

[RrogerD]

Some trades it seems (plumber for this one), just don't have the skills to be trading. My brand new kitchen and he trashed a hole in the back panel of the new sink unit. Yes, I did cover it with a blanking plate.
That, coupled with a catalogue of mistakes to boot (left a tap running full bore for >24hrs and, left a dripping joint in the bathroom floor over a weekend necessitating the reinstatement of the ceiling below)

 

[dilalio]

Some trades it seems (plumber for this one), just don't have the skills to be trading

And nor do some individuals in every other field of work!

There will always be cowboys, charlatans, incompetants, sociopaths and various other n'er-do-wells at large.

Bet there are/were a few in your line of work and probably got away with it for years!

 

[dilalio]

necessitating the reinstatement of the ceiling below)

Which also, no doubt, got the other blemishes like the footprint of the old strip fluorescent strip light made good!

 

[RrogerD]

Which also, no doubt, got the other blemishes like the footprint of the old strip fluorescent strip light made good!

Replaced it with inset spots and of course, made good all over.

 

[johnny2007]

Awful feckin things!

Started using them 10 years ago and haven't had one fail yet.

 

[Elsa TLC]

A picture tells the quality of the bathroom fitters. It really isn't hard to fit 4 clips and have them pipes straight.