I have no idea why you wrote all that.
Which part of what I wrote is incorrect?
Which part of what I wrote is incorrect?
Ok.
Which countries are those?
What is the definition of a 16A radial if it is allowed to have a 20A (two sizes larger than 10A) overcurrent protective device?Switzerland: overcurrent protection may be two sizes larger than the rating of the socket, commonly applied in the form of 10-amp sockets on 16-amp radials.
What is the reason for this?Belgium: 16-amp sockets on 20-amp radials
France: 16-amp sockets on 25-amp radials
I would say that is obvious that you are but there are constant arguments about what a UK double 13A socket (or even a single) can handle.Germany on the other hand tends to worry about 16-amp sockets on 16-amp radials if there are any extended overloads that remain within 1.45*In of the B16 MCB. At least some sparks do, others believe if the socket says 16 amps you're legally required to put it onto a B16.
Ragnar_AT has provided examples of situations in some European countries.Ok.
Which countries are those?
also:However, I neglected to mention that "normal" Australian/NZ 10 A socket-outlets are supplied by 2.5 mm2 cables, protected by 20 A Circuit Breakers (or RCBOs).
(When "Fuse" protection was/is used on 2,5 mm2 cable, the fuse rating is only 16 A)
You would know more than I do concerning such UK regulations.I am still not sure what this is all about, but:
"normal" UK 13A socket-outlets are supplied by two 2.5 mm2 cables (or one 4mm²), protected by 32A Circuit Breakers (or RCBOs).
(When "Fuse" protection was/is used on two 2.5 mm2 cable, the fuse rating is only 13A)
for most items in the home (kettle, toaster etc) the 13A fuse in the UK plug is not really necessary.
Yes, but the problem is that there has to be A fuse in the plugs so people think it must be needed.However, considering that, in the UK, one can have a 20 A Circuit Breaker protected "Radial" with 2.5 mm2 cable off a CU feeding many 13 A Socket-Outlets, the use of a 13 A fuse on a "Spur" from a "Ring" does seem over cautious.
Yes - a legacy of BS3036 rewireable fuses and their 0.725 derating of the cable CCC.As I mentioned earlier, 2.5 mm2 cable was protected by 16 A fuses in Australia. I suspect that the same may have applied in the UK, since Australia developed much of its electrical practices from the UK
The regulations for the special British ring circuit still applies for 30A BS3036 fuses even though MCBs would allow 40A to be used.(except, of course, the concept of a "Ring" - which is not allowed on "Low Voltage" circuits in Australia.)
1. YesDid you just mean you are not allowed the anachronistic special British ring?
Would extending a compliant radial back to the CU to reduce volt drop etc. be allowed?
Since the total "draw" would be 4800 W, 168 W is still only 3.5% and 5.6 watts loss (heating) per metre of cable is (presumably) that which is deemed to be "safe", when enclosed in walls.The power drop ( loss ) in the cable is 20 Amp x 8.4 Volts = 168 Watt over 30 metres or 5.6 Watts per metre of cable
The size of cables supplying "loads" is determined by that which is considered to be both "safe" (for enclosure) and "economical".