Tax dodging MPs

[carmanmemoranda]

Or doing plastering, plumbing or building jobs for mostly cash. Their skills are still needed.

Only if the country can collect the taxes

 

[motorbiking]

It's irrelevant to the need for their skills.

 

[JohnD]

I see the Brexers still aren't filling the vacancies for fruit-pickers, care-home workers, and cocklers.

 

[Mottie]

Every pound of tax dodged by a billionaire is a pound that has to be paid by somebody far poorer, or a pound off our public services.

This is true.

Applies to anyone who 'dodges' tax, not just 'billionaires'. I asked you earlier in this thread, maybe you didn’t see it but I’ll give it another go; I recall you mentioning receiving dividend payments on your investments. Do you make use of your national insurance exemption, dividend tax free allowance and dividend tax rate? If so, do you consider that 'tax dodging'?

Correct. Tory scum milking the skint UK, can all pith off. Good riddance.

But they might be running investment companies employing British workers that are giving JohnD his fantastic investment returns. He might be cutting off his capitalist nose to spite his socialist face.

Oh well, it looks like JohnD has me on his ignore list. If so, at least I wont have to put up with his numerous and childish "Mottie doesn't care" posts. Or will I?......

 

[motorbiking]

He's only interested in billionaires with high mobility, but has no idea how to make them pay more. He's quite happy to ignore that most of the "every day ordinary people" he listed are able to fund their pensions 50% tax free (unlike most private sector, non-union workers), dodge the upper pension pot cap, because the calculation under values indexed linked defined benefits schemes. Even the Vicar can dodge council tax on his residence in certain circumstances or claim back the income tax when paying it.

He also doesn't appear to get that the 117 UK resident billionaires can each pay £1 less in tax without the 8.1M lowest earning adults paying a £1 more in tax. Its actually just over 1/1000th of penny each.

I'd like to claim my council tax as an employment expense.
I'd like 50% of my pension to be funded tax free.
I'd like to have my pension pot under valued to avoid tax.

 

[JohnD]

Although you'll remember me demonstrating that dividend generosity made a substantial difference to people on an income of £50,000 p.a. So not higher tax.

It's very surprising that the tax laws favour the rich.

Isn't it?

Not all tax dodgers are billionaires.

And the tax laws that are designed to help the prosperous, but not ordinary working people, also benefit some people who are hardly even millionaires.

 

[Justin Passing]

No, it makes sense to focus on the people who've got most of the money, especially those of them who pay the least tax.

And yet tax laws, and enforcement, treat them the most generously.

Unsurprisingly, they are horrified at any suggestion that this might need to change.

No, the people who've got a lot of money have already paid tax on it, at the highest rate, when they earned it.

Jealous?

 

[JohnD]

No, the people who've got a lot of money have already paid tax on it, at the highest rate, when they earned it.

Jealous?

Nonsense.

 

[blup]

The fair way to redistribute income tax burden is to significantly raise basic rate tax to something nearer 30%. Plenty of revenue there to support the NHS, and the rich pay less, proportionally.

Blup

 

[charliegolf]

Applies to anyone who 'dodges' tax, not just 'billionaires'. I asked you earlier in this thread, maybe you didn’t see it but I’ll give it another go; I recall you mentioning receiving dividend payments on your investments. Do you make use of your national insurance exemption, dividend tax free allowance and dividend tax rate? If so, do you consider that 'tax dodging'?

Reading the first sentence I thought you were going to raise the issue (which would NOT I'm sure, apply to anyone here) of tradesmen and 'cash' payments...

I know cash payments are legal, but everyone knows what I mean.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's irrelevant to the need for their skills.

The taxes are more important, or do you want a black economy ?