Did you read the whole article, or just look at the (typically) misleading headline?
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Perhaps the Chilcot enquiry was thorough enough. Good ole Jezza opposing the war.
I think Motorbiking is making the point that anyone who tries to take action against a lying politician must therefore be of dubious virtue, so they must be discredited, so the case for politicians not being allowed to lie is therefore weakened.
This is one of the lines pushed by the Daily Wail.
It is very hard for supporters of Buffoon to openly claim that politicians should be allowed to get away with lying. Which is perhaps what they really believe.
This is one of the lines pushed by the Daily Wail.
It is very hard for supporters of Buffoon to openly claim that politicians should be allowed to get away with lying. Which is perhaps what they really believe.
Well I must admit this thread has been a
To me
Blimey politicians telling porkie pies
A nd then there is this red bus caper I am being told it was not true
Blimey what's the country come to ? Standards have gone down the collective toilet no doubt about imo
All started when we joined the common market a slow downward spiral
To me
Blimey politicians telling porkie pies
A nd then there is this red bus caper
I am being told it was not true Blimey what's the country come to ? Standards have gone down the collective toilet no doubt about imo
All started when we joined the common market a slow downward spiral
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Nope, I'm commented that Mr Ball falls in to a very small set of private prosecutors. Being neither a victim nor a charity/institution set up to protect against the things he is prosecuting. He appears to be a political activists. He also seems to want to use this case to redefine/change the law. He faces significant headwinds. I know some here have interpreted the Junior Judge's comments as endorsement of the strength of the case, but she hasn't at all. All she has done is considered the very, very low threshold that the case might have legs. She repeatedly states that she has not ruled on fact, she also highlighted some extremely weak elements of the prosecutions case as a warning to them of the risks they are taking. Her quotation of the prosecutors claim is not endorsement.
Campaigners who want to change the law, tend to use MPs to help them pass a bill or they use Judicial review. Bojo's defence team will likely use the later to properly define the law. This will go on for years.
All of us are a 'victim' if we accept that politicians can lie at will, and then do the opposite of what they said...
There was a few years ago a person in a nordic country whose campaign was based on not promising to do anything he promised he would do if elected...
He was voted in, and had the greatest get out clause ever!
He joins others in their legal pursuance of justice, or those found guilty: Gina Miller, the imprisonment of Paul Santana, Mohammed Saddiq and Babar Saddiq, Murli Mirchandani, Anton Vickerman, and numerous others.
Also, this article was back in 2014. I suspect the issues causing that increase in private prosecutions have increased.
Private prosecutions are on the increase as police budget cuts and pressures on the justice system force hundreds of Britons to fund their own criminal actions. Prosecutions for a wide array of offences including sex attacks, violent assaults and multi-million pound frauds are currently being pursued by private law firms.
One specialist firm involved in private prosecutions says that up to 40 per cent of its cases are brought by people angered by the failure of police to investigate, or by the Crown Prosecution Service’s unwilling to press ahead to trial.
“It’s a growing market where people are acting out of sheer frustration when their cases aren’t being heard and they’re being fobbed off too readily” said David Rosen, an associate law professor at Brunel University who has brought a number of private prosecutions.
“It’s a sad state of affairs when neither the police nor the Crown Prosecution Service have the resources to tackle every crime.”
The majority of cases involve fraud which are not taken on by the police – which has seen the closure of a number of anti-fraud units – or the Serious Fraud Office.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-private-prosecution-revolution-9672543.html
One specialist firm involved in private prosecutions says that up to 40 per cent of its cases are brought by people angered by the failure of police to investigate, or by the Crown Prosecution Service’s unwilling to press ahead to trial.
“It’s a growing market where people are acting out of sheer frustration when their cases aren’t being heard and they’re being fobbed off too readily” said David Rosen, an associate law professor at Brunel University who has brought a number of private prosecutions.
“It’s a sad state of affairs when neither the police nor the Crown Prosecution Service have the resources to tackle every crime.”
The majority of cases involve fraud which are not taken on by the police – which has seen the closure of a number of anti-fraud units – or the Serious Fraud Office.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-private-prosecution-revolution-9672543.html
yes, indeed, seeking to improve official conduct in this country.
It will not be an easy struggle.
There are too many people in positions of power and influence who want politicians to have the right to lie to the nation.
That's not what I want.
Do you?
Is it possible to be elected to office, while being utterly truthful, at all times?
"Truth hurts" ; by telling the truth , would that not risk alienating enough of the voters, as to make one unelectable?
Serious question.
"Truth hurts" ; by telling the truth , would that not risk alienating enough of the voters, as to make one unelectable?
Serious question.
See my earlier post
See my earlier post
Which one? The "Nordic" one?
Moot point, as any credible opposition would, effectively and decisively, show the lie for what it was.
Yes...
Thanks for your reply.
It's not quite the same though, is it?
All your example did was say "Don't hold me to anything I promised to do". Which is more akin to changing one's mind, than to lying....
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