The Big Red Bus

[durhamplumber]

I think he will be found guilty. I think a jail sentence is extreme. Also think he's the wrong man for PM and can't see him getting in. If he did however I would consider supporting him.

Jeeez,,take every lieing poiltician to court ,ROFL...BJ will end up no where near a Crown Court Case over this

 

[donrkebab]

If we locked up every mp that told a lie, we would have no one too vote for.

But if were going to do it, lets start with tony bliar, a man that lied so he could demonstrate his ultimate power by murdering 1000's of innocent people, and consequently become the biggest recruiter for jihad.

 

[Mfatic]

..BJ will end up no where near a Crown Court Case over this

It is going to a Crown Court.

The preliminary hearing will take place at Westminster Magistrates' Court and the case will then be sent to the Crown Court for trial.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48445430​

If we locked up every mp that told a lie, we would have no one too vote for.

But if were going to do it, lets start with tony bliar, a man that lied so he could demonstrate his ultimate power by murdering 1000's of innocent people, and consequently become the biggest recruiter for jihad.

There is some tests to be applied.
Is it misconduct in public office?
I won't bore you with the finer details.

 

[Mfatic]

I think he will be found guilty. I think a jail sentence is extreme. Also think he's the wrong man for PM and can't see him getting in. If he did however I would consider supporting him.

If he is found guilty, the chances of him going to prison is very high. One has to consider the potential effect his 'lie' has had on the UK.

Even if he is found not guilty, do you think he is guilty?
Simple test:
As a public officer, did the public expect him to know the true figure?
As a public officer, but not in a public officer role, did he knowingly use a higher than accurate figure?

I'm not sure you can take into account whether his 'lie' had any effect on the campaign.
I'm not sure you can take into account his motive for using an incorrect figure.

I personally think that the test, "was he in a public officer role or not" is an unfair test. The general public would not apply a "is he speaking as a public officer, or in a private individual capacity" test, when listening to him.

 

[ellal]

Lol...I am neither,,I can asssure you of that!

Your posts on here suggest the opposite

 

[Mfatic]

I see that the far-right parties have not rested in the posting of 'fake' videos.

European elections 2019: Investigating false and misleading video
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48345019

European elections: How disinformation spread in Facebook groups
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-48356351​

 

[durhamplumber]

Your posts on here suggest the opposite

You would say that,,you are some what biased!!!..

 

[durhamplumber]

Your posts on here suggest the opposite

Get over brexit...FFS

 

[Deleted member 18243]

He's not being sued for the perceived message of spending an extra £350m a week on the NHS (although the message on the bus doesn't explicitly say that). He is being sued for saying we send £350m per week to the EU, which we don't.

On a broader note, I noticed the prosecution had been crowd funded, personally I would be wary of contributing to such things, as if (not likely in this case) the defendant wins the case with substantial damages awarded, you are now jointly liable to pay those damages.

Turns out Boris was wrong about the £350 million figure after all. The figure is higher, at £363 billion.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/...exit-bus-was-wrong-the-real-figure-is-higher/

(Interesting article. It also tells of how Gordon Brown was misleading over "Tory Cuts" a few years back. Start a crowdfund!!)

 

[JohnD]

Get over brexit...FFS

And you!

Why can't you be HAPPY?

You WON!

Stop moaning!

 

[noseall]

Turns out Boris was wrong about the £350 million figure after all.

Wrong. The slogan said we give £350 million to the EU each week. Not true. Nor is your other figure.

The figure is higher, at £363 billion.

Lol. Stupid quitters and their math's failings.​

 

[motorbiking]

If he is found guilty, the chances of him going to prison is very high. One has to consider the potential effect his 'lie' has had on the UK.

Even if he is found not guilty, do you think he is guilty?
Simple test:
As a public officer, did the public expect him to know the true figure?
As a public officer, but not in a public officer role, did he knowingly use a higher than accurate figure?

I'm not sure you can take into account whether his 'lie' had any effect on the campaign.
I'm not sure you can take into account his motive for using an incorrect figure.

I personally think that the test, "was he in a public officer role or not" is an unfair test. The general public would not apply a "is he speaking as a public officer, or in a private individual capacity" test, when listening to him.

read page 7 of the transcript again. You're missing a key part (point 29). looks like a home goal politely documented.

 

[Bodd]

Even if he is found not guilty, do you think he is guilty?

I'm simply a plumber who's vote was as valuable as the most intelligent person in this country.

I'll more than likely believe in what the court rule.

I still have faith

 

[motorbiking]

Had the slogan said "We send £250M to the EU each week, lets spend that on the NHS instead" would you have reacted differently? What about £170M?
It is still rather a lot of cash.

btw for all - he's being prosecuted not sued. This is criminal court, it's an indictable offence.

 

[noseall]

Had the slogan said "We send £250M to the EU each week, lets spend that on the NHS instead" would you have reacted differently? What about £170M?
It is still rather a lot of cash.

You have missed the point. Spectacularly.