The Era of The Giant Frauds

[Deleted member 18243]

The 2020s will become known as the era of the giant frauds...eventually.

Covid, electric cars and Trump's stolen election are confidence tricks with an audacity never seen before in world history. What will it take for people to realise this, and how much more damage will be done before the realisation?

It might not happen in our lifetimes.

Those who believe these things need not reply, we have done to death all the arguments. Only "awake" people are invited to answer the question - When will the tide turn?

 

[fillyboy]

There is something in the saying 'the bigger the lie, the more people believe it', 'Mein Kampf' refers to it.

With Trump, was the 'big lie' the election result or Trump saying he really won. I think we have to accept that Trump was the 'big lie' and the evidence does seem to stack up against him.

Covid, anyones guess, it existed, we know that. Evidence is starting to emerge that the international reaction to covid will probably kill more people that covid did, look at our own NHS and the effects of lockdowns.

Electric cars? there's too many cars on the road, a lot of motorists need to be removed, what better way than making it unaffordable, or closing sections of cities or hiking the price of fuel.

I try to avoid conspiracy theories or theorists, but more often in recent years, I do occasionally raise an eyebrow.

 

[martygturner]

having had covid it does exist and really really killed a lot of people...the nurse that treated me died in the next bed 10 days after I was admitted, ...the nhs response was due to the simple fact staff were going down like flies...how would you have treated the staff? as sacrifices ? No staff no NHS. Given that the last pandemic of spanish flu killed 25-50 million with a r value of 1.8 - the rate at which it is transmissible and covid had a 3 r value its no wonder the world hit the panic button. ..hindsight is a great thing and so is a vaccine

 

[Deleted member 18243]

there's too many cars on the road, a lot of motorists need to be removed

I agree with that, almost every part of Britain is currently disfigured by motor vehicles. The solution to this is to remove bad motorists; remove bad vehicles and to make a limit on the overall number of vehicles rather than impose swingeing restrictions on everybody.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Those who believe these things need not reply, we have done to death all the arguments. Only "awake" people are invited to answer the question - When will the tide turn?

By 'awake' you mean those that share your view on these matters, so not exactly what forums are about i.e. encouraging discussion and debate on various subjects. What you're seeking is an echo chamber or whatever the saying is.

In some shape or form, covid happened. I'm not getting into forum ping pong re its origins, if governments and health authorities around the world handled it correctly and so on, but it happened.

As for EVs, I myself remain to be convinced they're 'the future' even though I agree that's the narrative being rammed down our throats these days. I suppose the assertion can be made, better to have 1000 EVs trundling around a town as opposed to 1000 ICE vehicles, although again I get the fact the jury is still out re how 'green' are they in their entirety. In terms of the immediate local impact however, I suspect a road of houses and/or shops would rather have EVs trundling backwards and forwards than ICE vehicles.

Trump is a tier 1 tw a t who directly or though his machine spreads misinformation left right and centre. When he was president, it got to the boring stage hearing him class literally everything as 'fake news' if it wasn't pro Trump news. His lack of telling his followers to back down during the Capitol Hill riots summed him as an individual up. Yes most top politicians are odious to some degree, however he takes it to a whole new level.

Are some of the things we're starting to see play out here in the UK and abroad part of a secret grand plan to gain further control of the population? Who the feck knows. What I do know is I'll be outta here ~30 years from now if I'm lucky, so hopefully any great reset, if it is to happen, won't be that much underway by then.

Not sure if this falls into conspiracy theory or not, however I reckon one if thee greatest threats to humankind in decades to come might just be AI. Again however, I'll hopefully be gone by the time the machines take over ...

 

[Dork Lard]

You will own nothing, & you will be happy.

 

[IT Minion]

By 'awake' you mean those that share your view on these matters, so not exactly what forums are about i.e. encouraging discussion and debate on various subjects. What you're seeking is an echo chamber or whatever the saying is.

It's terminology used by a small far right extremist Christian sect.

 

[johnny2007]

I agree with that, almost every part of Britain is currently disfigured by motor vehicles. The solution to this is to remove bad motorists; remove bad vehicles and to make a limit on the overall number of vehicles rather than impose swingeing restrictions on everybody.

There's a simple solution to this: destroy all prius and their drivers' licence, they don't deserve it.
Then remove all 20mph speed limits apart from outside schools and other critical spots.
Remove all speed traps and stupidly low speed limits (30mph on dual carriageway).
Remove useless traffic lights.
Burn the licence of anyone thinking that moving at 10mph is safe.
Fine £100k/day any utility company digging the road.
If the council is digging the road, have the work plan scrutinised by an independent body: if they find it that it was unnecessary, whoever signed it off has to be dismissed and barred from politics and public authorities.
By doing this there would be virtually no traffic.

 

[bernardgreen]

f the council is digging the road, have the work plan scrutinised by an independent body: if they find it that it was unnecessary, whoever signed it off has to be dismissed and barred from politics and public authorities.
By doing this there would be virtually no traffic.

 

[denso13]

You will own nothing, & you will be happy.

Great article with a lot of foresight.

 

[JohnD]

The 2020s will become known as the era of the giant frauds...eventually.

Brexit 350 Million Lie

• JohnD
• 28 Jun 2016

 

[JohnD]

You will own nothing, & you will be happy.

I never thought the dork was a fundamentalist Christian.

(Matt. 19.21)

I don't think he's made much progress yet.

 

[DP]

Trump's stolen election

You need to do some research instead of playing the same record every time

AP FACT CHECK: On Jan. 6 anniversary, Trump sticks to election falsehoods

Former President Donald Trump on Thursday continued to cling to false claims that the 2020 election was stolen as the nation marked the one-year anniversary of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.

www.pbs.org

Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 18243]

You need to do some research instead of playing the same record every time

AP FACT CHECK: On Jan. 6 anniversary, Trump sticks to election falsehoods

Former President Donald Trump on Thursday continued to cling to false claims that the 2020 election was stolen as the nation marked the one-year anniversary of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.

www.pbs.org

Thanks, but ask who "fact checks" the fact checkers and who funds the fact checkers.

 

[DP]

Thanks, but ask who "fact checks" the fact checkers and who funds the fact checkers.

And who spreads the lies and baseless assertions that ejection was stolen. Fox News?, Trump and his minions who have an axe to grind.

Clearly you are happy with mantra Trump created to say the election was stolen but every thing counter to that needs fact checked to nth degree. May be you should check if the election was really stolen from the orange blob in the same manner you ask above.