The NHS.

[Moz]

My sister found out she needs her gall bladder out this week ,
after tests ,
her gp said she will go on the waiting list , an it will take upto 10 months wait ,
all the time shes on tabs for the acid build up /pain ,

her employer has private health care an shes been told shes covered an will go private for the op next friday , lol

my socialist principles died when New labour =tories got in ..

 

[joe-90]

The problem for the NHS is that it has to pick up the tab for the aged.

Private medicine only looks after the young and workling or the old and wealthy.

Sooner or later we will have to realise that keeping an old person alive in a resisential home for ten years when they have altzeimers is sheer stupidity for the NHS - and the patient.

When you lose your marbles - then see ya!



joe

 

[Moz]

joe

you have a very scary point to that post , as now the cost of personal care for the sick elderly isnt allowed by the NHS...

an the fact is many who post here are 40 age group an if we expect the NHS to care for us after all our lifes paying into the system , we are going to be shocked in 20 /30 years time ..

 

[pickles]

The problem for the NHS is that it has to pick up the tab for the aged.

Private medicine only looks after the young and workling or the old and wealthy.

Sooner or later we will have to realise that keeping an old person alive in a resisential home for ten years when they have altzeimers is sheer stupidity for the NHS - and the patient.

When you lose your marbles - then see ya!



joe

The cost of care in residential homes is paid by the local authority not the NHS after the persons own resources have been reduced to £16,0000

 

[Moz]

pickles
yes sorry your right , I meant the local authority .....in Scotland all requirements are paid without means testing ....

 

[joe-90]

The fact remaiins that elderly people are draining the NHS.

That's where the biggest part of the budget goes.

It simply cannot continue.

joe

 

[kendor]

wonder if joes views will change when he's a pensioner?

 

[vokera80e]

you've got to ask yourself would any of this change under a new government.i think not...The problem with NHS is why does it take two chiefs to look after one indian.and where is it in the hypocratic oath that some Dr's as to be payed 250 Grand a year.(as reported)it's more like pop status...The Nurses in these Hospitals work very hard,and it is disheartening when admin receive huge payrises whilst the Nurses carry on holding that torch for little money.not forgetting all the auxcillary staff.

Rant over...

 

[2scoops0406]

Most of these training days were held around 80 miles from where we lived and so we'd usually have to leave our houses extra early and get home extra late - incurring extra hours and childcare costs for most of us.

The company wouldn't pay for any of it though. Their reasoning was that they would pay for our lunch and it was part of the job!

Doesn't sound like a very nice company to work for, I'd have told 'em to poke it.

 

[kendor]

you've got to ask yourself would any of this change under a new government.i think not...The problem with NHS is why does it take two chiefs to look after one indian.and where is it in the hypocratic oath that some Dr's as to be payed 250 Grand a year.(as reported)it's more like pop status...The Nurses in these Hospitals work very hard,and it is disheartening when admin receive huge payrises whilst the Nurses carry on holding that torch for little money.not forgetting all the auxcillary staff.

Rant over...

It seems the hypocratic oath only stretches to healthcare and not pay in saying that the market of free enterprise as instigated by the tories when in power governs what a doctor or for that matter any other skilled person can dictate in worth.

We reap what we sow and unfortunately the tories did extreme damage to this country with policy and sell offs that it's been impossible for any future government to pick up the pieces, the NHS for example has shown this to be the case as all labour could do to ease problems was chuck vaste amounts of money into it, this didn't work with the present lineup as moulded by the tories so this is why blair is now being criticised for trying to reform the NHS and get it back on the rails.
it's unfortunate that some may feel they will suffer from these reforms but what is better try to fix the problem before total collapse or try to instigate steps for recovery now?

The irony of it is that by the time the fruits of any repairs are seen the tories may be back in power and will then take great pleasure in ripping off labours good work as their own this happened last time they got into office.

 

[masona]

We reap what we sow and unfortunately the tories did extreme damage to this country with policy and sell offs that it's been impossible for any future government to pick up the pieces, the NHS for example has shown this to be the case as all labour could do to ease problems was chuck vaste amounts of money into it, this didn't work with the present lineup as moulded by the tories so this is why blair is now being criticised for trying to reform the NHS and get it back on the rails.
it's unfortunate that some may feel they will suffer from these reforms but what is better try to fix the problem before total collapse or try to instigate steps for recovery now?

Blair 1997: We have 48 hrs to save the NHS, more lies then?

Stop blaming the Tories

Why has Labour employed so many pointless penpusher in the NHS, nothing to do the Tories? So what they do now Sacking doctors & nurses onto the dole instead

Margaret Thatcher's gave tax relief on private medical insurance to take the pressure of the NHS waiting lists which Gordan Brown had scrapped


Blair & Brown had taken 800,000 doctors and nurses away from Africa to our NHS so that's why many Africians can't get treated.

Blair doesn't care

Remember Brown will sack 80,000 whitehall workers? Didn't happen, more lies.

I know let blame the Tories

The irony of it is that by the time the fruits of any repairs are seen the tories may be back in power and will then take great pleasure in ripping off labours good work as their own this happened last time they got into office.

Since when has the NHS worked Remember the MRSA, Labour has done nothing about it which is quite simple to do

New Labour will look after the working class, yeah right, then how come the richer are getting more richer and the poorer are getting more poorer

We need a new partly

 

[pickles]

The fact remaiins that elderly people are draining the NHS.

That's where the biggest part of the budget goes.

It simply cannot continue.

joe

What do you suggest. Euthanasia

 

[pickles]

you've got to ask yourself would any of this change under a new government.i think not...The problem with NHS is why does it take two chiefs to look after one indian.and where is it in the hypocratic oath that some Dr's as to be payed 250 Grand a year.(as reported)it's more like pop status...The Nurses in these Hospitals work very hard,and it is disheartening when admin receive huge payrises whilst the Nurses carry on holding that torch for little money.not forgetting all the auxcillary staff.

Rant over...

It seems the hypocratic oath only stretches to healthcare and not pay in saying that the market of free enterprise as instigated by the tories when in power governs what a doctor or for that matter any other skilled person can dictate in worth.

We reap what we sow and unfortunately the tories did extreme damage to this country with policy and sell offs that it's been impossible for any future government to pick up the pieces, the NHS for example has shown this to be the case as all labour could do to ease problems was chuck vaste amounts of money into it, this didn't work with the present lineup as moulded by the tories so this is why blair is now being criticised for trying to reform the NHS and get it back on the rails.
it's unfortunate that some may feel they will suffer from these reforms but what is better try to fix the problem before total collapse or try to instigate steps for recovery now?

The irony of it is that by the time the fruits of any repairs are seen the tories may be back in power and will then take great pleasure in ripping off labours good work as their own this happened last time they got into office.

Absolutely right kendor, and why did the tories do it, simple, to reduce the burden of personal taxation. In other words we have now got exactly what we paid for.

Shoddy second rate health care

 

[masona]

The fact remaiins that elderly people are draining the NHS.

That's where the biggest part of the budget goes.

Are you sure about that?

What about people who don't look after their health eg; drinker and smoker etc

 

[joe-90]

The fact remaiins that elderly people are draining the NHS.

That's where the biggest part of the budget goes.

Are you sure about that?

What about people who don't look after their health eg; drinker and smoker etc

That's what I heared on the TV the other day.

The smoker and drinker at least contribute through their taxes.

Walk around a hospital and see how many oldies there are.

They get their prescriptions by the carrier bag full.


joe