The Perfect, er, Thingy
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Come on John, make your point and stop beating around the bush.
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I think that in general, it is still not quite the done thing for women to openly discuss their 'bits' in the same way that in general, men do.
Emphasis on the generalising part because I think that younger women are far more (thank goodness) open about how they look and what they want.
The vagina monologues is a worthwhile theatre to go and see, both men and women. It is humorous yet poignant and thought provoking and I really enjoyed it although I felt uncomfortable with the way that it sought to make the c u n * word for our ladies parts, acceptable. I hate that word it is so offensive.
Good on the girls who are familiar with their body.
On a practical note softus, it is not possible to glance or in fact stare down there and see what is what due to the fact that there isnt actually anything to see from a ladies perspective. Its not positioned for us to view unless a contortionist without aid of a mirror.
I think that it is easy to berate women who seek to change their vaginas but I am saddened when it is to seek perfection.
However, if a women is physically very different then why should she go through life feeling uncomfortable and embarrassed?
If someone had a large unsightly growth on their cheek with hairs growing out of it and wanted it removed would we berate them?
Im not sure on this one. Fixing what isnt broken I do not agree with.
However, it is easy to tell someone to 'just live with it' if never having experienced the feeling of being ridiculed personally.
Emphasis on the generalising part because I think that younger women are far more (thank goodness) open about how they look and what they want.
The vagina monologues is a worthwhile theatre to go and see, both men and women. It is humorous yet poignant and thought provoking and I really enjoyed it although I felt uncomfortable with the way that it sought to make the c u n * word for our ladies parts, acceptable. I hate that word it is so offensive.
Good on the girls who are familiar with their body.
On a practical note softus, it is not possible to glance or in fact stare down there and see what is what due to the fact that there isnt actually anything to see from a ladies perspective. Its not positioned for us to view unless a contortionist without aid of a mirror.
I think that it is easy to berate women who seek to change their vaginas but I am saddened when it is to seek perfection.
However, if a women is physically very different then why should she go through life feeling uncomfortable and embarrassed?
If someone had a large unsightly growth on their cheek with hairs growing out of it and wanted it removed would we berate them?
Im not sure on this one. Fixing what isnt broken I do not agree with.
However, it is easy to tell someone to 'just live with it' if never having experienced the feeling of being ridiculed personally.
Well said, toffee ! Actually,only a third party with a speculum can inspect a vagina - the programme under discussion should have been called 'The
Perfect Vulva', should it not ?!
IMHO both men's and ladies' 'bits' are strangely unattractive when you think of the activity they get involved in, but reasonably normal female bits are no more unappealing than uncircumcised male bits. You are dead right though when you say that someone with an ugly growth anywhere has every right to have it removed if it bothers them. In the TV programme the presenter (I forget her name) was shown before and after photos of an operation which the surgeon she was interviewing had carried out. At that point the viewer did not see the photos but did later on, and to be quite honest I would have surgery myself if I had what that poor girl had. It looked like an obscene frilly fungus that you might see growing on the ground in a rain forest ! Apart from its ugliness it would have been 'in the way' in every day life and possibly a health risk as well.
An earlier poster thought part of the problem was the ready availability of
ever more graphic images which made people compare themselves to others' ideas of unrealistic 'perfection'. But on the other hand it is good that things are more open and people can see that they are not really all that different from others and don't suffer in silence tormented by the belief that they are.
I still haven't seen 'The Vagina Monologues' even though it has been going for such a long time. Like you, I detest the 'C' word. It is strange that we see it as so offensive given that it is a Latin derivative !
Anyway, nice to 'meet' you, toffee. I am a 'new girl' on here !
Perfect Vulva', should it not ?!
IMHO both men's and ladies' 'bits' are strangely unattractive when you think of the activity they get involved in, but reasonably normal female bits are no more unappealing than uncircumcised male bits. You are dead right though when you say that someone with an ugly growth anywhere has every right to have it removed if it bothers them. In the TV programme the presenter (I forget her name) was shown before and after photos of an operation which the surgeon she was interviewing had carried out. At that point the viewer did not see the photos but did later on, and to be quite honest I would have surgery myself if I had what that poor girl had. It looked like an obscene frilly fungus that you might see growing on the ground in a rain forest ! Apart from its ugliness it would have been 'in the way' in every day life and possibly a health risk as well.
An earlier poster thought part of the problem was the ready availability of
ever more graphic images which made people compare themselves to others' ideas of unrealistic 'perfection'. But on the other hand it is good that things are more open and people can see that they are not really all that different from others and don't suffer in silence tormented by the belief that they are.
I still haven't seen 'The Vagina Monologues' even though it has been going for such a long time. Like you, I detest the 'C' word. It is strange that we see it as so offensive given that it is a Latin derivative !
Anyway, nice to 'meet' you, toffee. I am a 'new girl' on here !
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