Those massive queues at Dover that brexers claim don’t exist….are back

[Deleted member 221031]

Exactly, travelling in the EU is now a privilege, nor a right.

And ?

 

[gas112]

Childish deflection

childish brexer trying to claim “it’s just a bit of form filling”



childish Brexer trying to claim “it’s just a bit of form filling”


are you proud of this comment


you can’t stay longer than 90 days

if you want to, you have to apply for residency…..which is not straight forward and many people won’t comply.

for a start you need evidence you have an income of €28,000 Euros a year





let’s take Spain:

What do I need to apply for a non-lucrative visa?

You need to prepare the following list of documents and present them to a Spanish Consulate:

• The completed visa form – you can download it here.
• A passport or travel document recognised by Spain. It should be valid for at least 12 months and contain a minimum of two blank pages. You also need to provide a copy of all the pages in your passport.
• A passport photo.
• If you are not a national of the country you currently live in, you need to show proof of a valid residence permit and provide a copy of it.
• A certificate of criminal record issued by the country or countries where you have lived in the five years preceding your visa application. The certificate must have been issued within the last three months*.
• A private health insurance policy with an insurance company with a licence to operate in Spain.
• A medical certificate, issued by a medical centre in your home country or Spain and dated within three months of your visa application stating the following:
• “This health certificate states that Mr./Mrs. (…) does not suffer from any of the diseases that may have serious public health repercussions in accordance with what is stipulated by the International Health Regulations of 2005.”*

Proof of sufficient funds to support yourself. In 2021, ‘sufficient funds’ were defined as having funds of at least €2,259.60 a month for a year (total €27,115.20).

• If you are applying for dependents as well, you need to show proof that you have funds of at least €6,778.80 per dependent a year.

Is there additional documentation for dependents on a non-lucrative visa in Spain?

Yes, there is.

If your dependent is your spouse or partner, you need to provide your marriage or civil partnership certificate*. If your dependents are descendants, you need to provide their birth certificate*.

*These documents must be translated (sworn translation) and legalised through the consular representatives of the issuing country or carry the Hague Apostille unless they were issued by an EU member state.

How do I prove I have sufficient funds?

You can provide proof in the following ways:

• Original documents showing you receive regular income that makes the above financial minimum.
• Original documents showing that you own assets that guarantee you receive the above financial minimum.

Note that if your income comes from shares in Spanish companies or any company based in Spain, you must prove that you do not carry out any employment at these companies and provide an affidavit to this effect.

What happens after I collect my visa?

Once you have the stamp for the non-lucrative visa in Spain in your passport, you have one month to enter Spain and apply for your Foreign Resident Card (Tarjeta de Identidad de Extranjero) at a national police station in your place of residence

Childish deflection

childish brexer trying to claim “it’s just a bit of form filling”



childish Brexer trying to claim “it’s just a bit of form filling”


are you proud of this comment


you can’t stay longer than 90 days

if you want to, you have to apply for residency…..which is not straight forward and many people won’t comply.

for a start you need evidence you have an income of €28,000 Euros a year





let’s take Spain:

What do I need to apply for a non-lucrative visa?

You need to prepare the following list of documents and present them to a Spanish Consulate:

• The completed visa form – you can download it here.
• A passport or travel document recognised by Spain. It should be valid for at least 12 months and contain a minimum of two blank pages. You also need to provide a copy of all the pages in your passport.
• A passport photo.
• If you are not a national of the country you currently live in, you need to show proof of a valid residence permit and provide a copy of it.
• A certificate of criminal record issued by the country or countries where you have lived in the five years preceding your visa application. The certificate must have been issued within the last three months*.
• A private health insurance policy with an insurance company with a licence to operate in Spain.
• A medical certificate, issued by a medical centre in your home country or Spain and dated within three months of your visa application stating the following:
• “This health certificate states that Mr./Mrs. (…) does not suffer from any of the diseases that may have serious public health repercussions in accordance with what is stipulated by the International Health Regulations of 2005.”*

Proof of sufficient funds to support yourself. In 2021, ‘sufficient funds’ were defined as having funds of at least €2,259.60 a month for a year (total €27,115.20).

• If you are applying for dependents as well, you need to show proof that you have funds of at least €6,778.80 per dependent a year.

Is there additional documentation for dependents on a non-lucrative visa in Spain?

Yes, there is.

If your dependent is your spouse or partner, you need to provide your marriage or civil partnership certificate*. If your dependents are descendants, you need to provide their birth certificate*.

*These documents must be translated (sworn translation) and legalised through the consular representatives of the issuing country or carry the Hague Apostille unless they were issued by an EU member state.

How do I prove I have sufficient funds?

You can provide proof in the following ways:

• Original documents showing you receive regular income that makes the above financial minimum.
• Original documents showing that you own assets that guarantee you receive the above financial minimum.

Note that if your income comes from shares in Spanish companies or any company based in Spain, you must prove that you do not carry out any employment at these companies and provide an affidavit to this effect.

What happens after I collect my visa?

Once you have the stamp for the non-lucrative visa in Spain in your passport, you have one month to enter Spain and apply for your Foreign Resident Card (Tarjeta de Identidad de Extranjero) at a national police station in your place of residence

I can see you struggle with either looking stuff up or purposely not putting the truth no you DO NOT have to apply for residency try googling a type D visa for starters

 

[gas112]

Very few people understand other peoples jobs and titles.

I would hazard a guess of the general public that way over 50% consider gas and plumbing to be the same type of job.

But it's all irrelevant to the points being made

No someone of limited intelligence such as you may think that . Or do you think that because the gas comes out of the sea then water must be involved ?

 

[gas112]

You are a plumber

”heating engineer” yeah that’s a brexit voting plumber

I bet the majority in CC are Brexit supporting Trump lovers.

it’s handling all that copper n lead innit

Usual halfwit reply when shown to be talking shyte

 

[gas112]

Then you'll appreciate the additional work required to travel to and within Schengen now, that was not necessary before.
And if you think it's not extra hassle, you're either lying, or not been travelling in EU then or now.

What additional hassle absolutely nothing different for day to day travel ? passport control never waited more than 5 minutes on the other side even occasionally still using e passport gates unlike the queues we have in our airports coming back

 

[Roy Bloom]

And ?

You can be refused entry.
A Schegen visa is not guarranteed.
A visa to work or live in one EU country does not transfer to EU wide. It now remains specific to that country.

 

[Roy Bloom]

passport control never waited more than 5 minutes on the other side even occasionally still using e passport gates

Then you've never travelled by ferry via Dover, so your comments are irrelevant to this thread.

Careful, you'll have Mottie the forum policeman onto you about changing the thread to something else.

But like I said, an occasional trip to EU for a fortnight's holiday, without a pet, and apart from the queue's, and import restrictions, you probably won't notice much difference. Except you'll still have to check your passport won't expire in the next six months, otherwise you'll need to renew it early.
Whereas the frequent travellers who like to spend as much time in Europe as possible, or with pets, are accutely inconvenienced.
If you're not getting your passport stamped, you're either lying, have dual nationality, or been very fortunate, or not travelled recently.

I am a very frequent traveller, and I have a CdeS, but even my passport has been stamped, every time, whenever I forget to offer my CdeS with my passport.

 

[gas112]

Then you've never travelled by ferry via Dover, so your comments are irrelevant to this thread.

Careful, you'll have Mottie the forum policeman onto you about changing the thread to something else.

But like I said, an occasional trip to EU for a fortnight's holiday, without a pet, and apart from the queue's, and import restrictions, you probably won't notice much difference. Except you'll still have to check your passport won't expire in the next six months, otherwise you'll need to renew it early.
Whereas the frequent travellers who like to spend as much time in Europe as possible, or with pets, are accutely inconvenienced.
If you're not getting your passport stamped, you're either lying, have dual nationality, or been very fortunate, or not travelled recently.

I am a very frequent traveller, and I have a CdeS, but even my passport has been stamped, every time, whenever I forget to offer my CdeS with my passport.

Oh so we are only talking about ferries have you not bothered reading dozens of posts then .

Now lets address this one .
Not getting my passport stamped i must be lying or have dual nationality or been very fortunate or not travelled recently .
You really do struggle with how passports can be checked without being stamped , have a wee think about it read some more replies and get back to me on that one

 

[Roy Bloom]

Oh so we are only talking about ferries have you not bothered reading dozens of posts then .

Check the thread title.
If you've been posting loads of off-topic posts, it's not my job to sort your dross from the relevant comments.

Not getting my passport stamped i must be lying or have dual nationality or been very fortunate or not travelled recently .
You really do struggle with how passports can be checked without being stamped , have a wee think about it read some more replies and get back to me on that one

So you passport is recorded for entry and exit, just not by stamping.
So if you overstay, or revisit too soon, you could be refused entry because the computer throws up an exception.

And in the meantime, you'll be creating a queue behind you because the gate won't open.
And you're marched off for interrogation. Nice.

 

[denso13]

You really do struggle with how passports can be checked without being stamped

Glad you agree there are now more barriers than there were before. Ergo things are now worse, not better.

 

[gas112]

Check the thread title.
If you've been posting loads of off-topic posts, it's not my job to sort your dross from the relevant comments.



So you passport is recorded for entry and exit, just not by stamping.
So if you overstay, or revisit too soon, you could be refused entry because the computer throws up an exception.

And in the meantime, you'll be creating a queue behind you because the gate won't open.
And you're marched off for interrogation. Nice.

So i see you do not understand how e passport gates or electronic scanning works
You know exactly the same way you exit and enter this country .
Does your mum know that you are on the computer whilst she is out at work ?

 

[gas112]

Glad you agree there are now more barriers than there were before. Ergo things are now worse, not better.

what barriers do e passport control give you know the same way of exiting and entering this country . And as it was before brexit . So pray tell how you think its worse to use the method we used pre brexit

 

[Roy Bloom]

So i see you do not understand how e passport gates or electronic scanning works

Of course I know I've used them on several occasions. They're a real pain because they often don't work, and you have to try a couple of gates before it'll read your passport. And the attendant (yes, they still need them because the gates are very fallible) will know which gates work the best. So you try one gate, and try again, and try again, then the attendant redirects you to another gate, (because you're causing a queue) where it still takes a couple of goes.

And my passport was renewed this year.
And your passport is checked on several occasions before you reach the gates.

But the thread is about Dover.

You know exactly the same way you exit and enter this country .

There's a myriad of methods and entry/exit points.

 

[denso13]

So pray tell how you think its worse to use the method we used pre brexit

E passport control only available for the club members, not for the plebs who rejected the club.

Held up for a few hours getting through Prague airport by security in the non EU queue. Some tried the EU queue as their passport still said EU citizen but were firmly put in their place.

Was is a huge deal? Not really, once passport was stamped we were on our way. No denying it has changed and it is worse than before though.

 

[Roy Bloom]

what barriers do e passport control give you know the same way of exiting and entering this country . And as it was before brexit . So pray tell how you think its worse to use the method we used pre brexit

It's very obvious, your data is now recorded on a computer, whereas the stamping method still occurs, and it's recorded on a computer.
So the restrictions still apply. If you travel so infrequently, you won't have encountered the restrictions.