Threat to second home owners

[pipme]

Labour manifesto ? Did you see this ? More rules more regs, sigh

 

[Freddie]

Firmly believe in this one, the people who buy a second home cause nothing but problems for other people so i do believe in whacking them hard to discourage it.

 

[oilman]

Don't see why inherited homes should be included, this is covered at present by inheritance tax rules, but This'll certainly bugger up loads of greedy politicians. Who mentioned the Blairs, the Meachers, the Prescotts and dozens of others. Yippee!!!

Houses shouldn't be a profit centre (nor should water companies, public transport, etc)

 

[Freddie]

Don't see why inherited homes should be included, this is covered at present by inheritance tax rules, but This'll certainly b*****r up loads of greedy politicians. Who mentioned the Blairs, the Meachers, the Prescotts and dozens of others. Yippee!!!

Houses shouldn't be a profit centre (nor should water companies, public transport, etc)

Well nobody can help that someone has died and their house has to be disposed of, but second homes cause---------

house price inflation
countryside being built over
un-natural shortages for the local population
more traffic on roads and pressure on them to be maintained or new ones built

The Benefits are-----
money being spent which benefits the economy-------but if people werent allowed to have a second home they would spend their money elswhere so this isnt really a benefit as the money would find its way into the economy another way.

 

[pipme]

Don't see why inherited homes should be included, this is covered at present by inheritance tax rules, but This'll certainly b*****r up loads of greedy politicians. Who mentioned the Blairs, the Meachers, the Prescotts and dozens of others. Yippee!!!
Houses shouldn't be a profit centre (nor should water companies, public transport, etc)

Perhaps not, they are mainly Lawyers, so take care of themselves ...

... targeting Britons who have bought second homes in rural areas or inherited property from relatives...

No mention of town houses, flats in Bristol.
Are there hidden implications ?

But then, they have said "Do not rely on house ownership to provide a pension..." Was that the 'Gypsies warning' we have become used to, that little, un-noticed, drip fed seemingly innocuous piece of info? They have not finished yet .. the pips are not squeaking, currently well oiled in cheap loan dosh ....
Watch the devious barstewards ... revenue is all they think of.. We call it tax ..

 

[Richardp]

We've got problems here, Its mainly were there is a housing shortage that there's a problem, it means young people cant get local housing at affordable prices and in the winter the villages are like ghost towns the schools shut and post office etc. it also brings conflict between the richer second home owners and locals in as much as they have differing values, they wont to recreate their homes in the country, a second home owner would see that rusty old tractor or rotting boat as an eyesore that should be removed, where as the local would see it as a resource for spares or winter fuel supply not to mention city dwellers complaining about being woke up by a noisy cockerel and complaining about the smell of cow poo etc. on the other hand if there is no housing shortage it can be a benefit to the community but they should still pay full community charges, and make an effort to fit in. {I'd simply shoot the cockeral and spray the cows with deodorant}

 

[Freddie]

We've got problems here, Its mainly were there is a housing shortage that there's a problem, it means young people cant get local housing at affordable prices and in the winter the villages are like ghost towns the schools shut and post office etc. it also brings conflict between the richer second home owners and locals in as much as they have differing values, they wont to recreate their homes in the country, a second home owner would see that rusty old tractor or rotting boat as an eyesore that should be removed, where as the local would see it as a resource for spares or winter fuel supply not to mention city dwellers complaining about being woke up by a noisy cockerel and complaining about the smell of cow poo etc. on the other hand if there is no housing shortage it can be a benefit to the community but they should still pay full community charges, and make an effort to fit in. {I'd simply shoot the cockeral and spray the cows with deodorant}

O n that note and this is true----------the RSPCA get fed up with Townie's who think they know it all calling them to complain about the locals being cruel to animals-------The one about the farmer forcing the cows into the field and leaving them there when it's raining is a classic--------100% true !!!!!!

 

[pipme]

Next month Tony Blair will unveil a rural housing commission with a remit to devise ways of curbing the spread of second homes. New planning laws could bar millions of country homes from being sold to wealthy town- dwellers, while those already owning rural retreats may be hit with higher council tax bills than their village-based neighbours.
Several government ministers have revealed their determination to intervene in the housing market. Yvette Cooper, a minister in John Prescott's department, the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, said it recognised concerns about the impact of second home ownership on the affordability and availability of homes for local people. ....

And now the wet Blanket returns ...

..Separately David Blunkett, the new pensions secretary, has hinted that people who get a windfall in retirement by inheriting their parents house could lose part of their state pension top-up benefit....

And it'll be worse ... This is the 'Involving the nation' part 'telling' not asking.

 

[kendor]

Firmly believe in this one, the people who buy a second home cause nothing but problems for other people so i do believe in whacking them hard to discourage it.

Blimey we agree on something!

 

[kendor]

O n that note and this is true----------the RSPCA get fed up with Townie's who think they know it all calling them to complain about the locals being cruel to animals-------The one about the farmer forcing the cows into the field and leaving them there when it's raining is a classic--------100% true !!!!!!

well he could have at least given them umbrellas! (don't get them from Timpsons though, too expensive at £15 a throw)

 

[AdamW]

This is one I have never understood: let's buy a house in the country, despite not actually liking the countryside (other than a chocolate-box image of it). I have lived for short periods in semi-rural areas and loved it. Crowing is good, it means you wake up earlier and get more daylight. Fresh air is great, and even if it pongs a bit, it's only really bad if you are right up close to the source.

As to farmers being cruel to animals, I've never seen it. OK, he might not give each and every cow the affection that one might give the family pet, but he keeps them as a business, not cos he likes to stroke them!

However, there is nothing wrong with having two houses. Has anyone considered the fact that the person who sold the house to the two-house family is actually to blame? Now, if the two-house family try to sell this house, who is going to buy it other than another two-house family?

Authorities and people in the countryside should think of ways to make full-time countryside living more attractive and viable, that way the money will go into local business.

 

[kendor]

but surely you can see wrong in it when there is a shortage going on?
you would complain if you were a prospective first time buyer, maybe the answer is for the government to buy back all the houses and rent them back to everyone on a strictly adhered to vetting scheme ie one house per one or more family.

 

[AdamW]

you would complain if you were a prospective first time buyer

Ah, but you see I got on the ladder just before the prices went cacka, so I'm alright jack, errr, ken

First-time buying is hard, and it is financially crippling. It would be great if it didn't have to be that way, but being a first-time buyer has never been easy. Those of us who have accomplished it recently would feel pretty hard done by if all of a sudden they started handing out grants and reduced rate mortgages to first time buyers.

It is terrible that there is a housing shortage, but the problem isn't people owning two houses. Few people actually have the luxury of two "proper" homes. It is generally a family-sized house for the weekends and a small flat for the week. If they retreated to one or the other, a lot of people would turn their noses up at either living in the middle of nowhere in the house, or being cramped up in a flat in the town. I know plenty of people who didn't get on the ladder at the same time as me because they thought they were above the concept of living in a flat. The housing shortage would be improved if more apartment buildings were put up, nice modern ones with decent gardens and plenty of space. Other countries do this.

Personally, I would like to see the PM set an example by selling his extraneous properties, after all we are putting him up in Downing Street.

 

[kendor]

First-time buying is hard, and it is financially crippling. It would be great if it didn't have to be that way, but being a first-time buyer has never been easy. Those of us who have accomplished it recently would feel pretty hard done by if all of a sudden they started handing out grants and reduced rate mortgages to first time buyers.

But isn't that life? missed out on loads of deals in the past but also had a share in fortunes aswell, nothing against others gaining a helping hand if there is call for it, otherwise it would be looked on as selfish. Agreed on the Politicians setting an example, they would have to comply if it became law anyway.

 

[pipme]

It's only about rural seconds not city seconds .. Poloticians taking care of themselves on that score ... More meddling more rubbish ... Just higher rents in the countryside I expect ... How did that Blanket get back? That is against natural justice .. are they saying they have no one else to carry out a ministerial role? .....Ah I see, the token you know what.