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Tobias Elwood says we should rejoin Single Market
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Sorry, John, but I (and many others) thought that the EU had started life in 1951 as the European Coal and Steel Community comprising the Netherlands, Belgium Luxembourg, France, Italy and Germany as a way to provide a common market in coal and steel and with the aim of also preventing a war between France and Germany. This union had the full support of the American government of the day
As to legislating against the UK, after joining the EC the UK became a major driving force in many areas of legislation, one of them which affects my life is health and safety. But Margaret Thatcher (remember her), whilst being criticsl of agreements like Schengen, was a great promoter of the Single Market and the major advantages it would (and did) deliver to this country - something the mental pygymies we currently have in office and their supporters seem incapable of understanding.
As to legislating against the UK, after joining the EC the UK became a major driving force in many areas of legislation, one of them which affects my life is health and safety. But Margaret Thatcher (remember her), whilst being criticsl of agreements like Schengen, was a great promoter of the Single Market and the major advantages it would (and did) deliver to this country - something the mental pygymies we currently have in office and their supporters seem incapable of understanding.
I recall an interview with Margaret T. many years ago where she talked of the formation of the Common Market and what Harold Macmillan said to her that 'we must never let (the World Wars) happen again.' and he believed that an economic area would bring European nations together in ways which would prevent another catastrophic war. So far, he's right, but each generation will have to find its own reasons to keep it together.
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It's extremely thin on detail. Ideas are one thing - detail and implementation are another. Effects yet another.
The word holistic crops up. Nice term but what does it mean in practice. Brexit in terms of N Ireland is far from it.
A free port with simplified customs - a nonsense for the public. Also a bit of an unknown for business. It probably means zero source sales taxes just as we have with the EU. Hang on, they do want to apply tariffs. To what, how and at what level. It's unlikely to mean containers going into say Liverpool docks.
Billions for the NHS - hang on a tax increase. It's actually rather hard to find out where that tax will actually be spent.. May did have a nice idea on that - a specific health tax. That would separate out the other state support aspects.
A number of those are rather irrelevant. The EU offers the same really. Possible exception vaccine role out but the EU's aim on that was bulk and cost on the vaccine they decided to use. I don't think there was any mandate that members had to use it or even share what they could produce. Export is the choice of the exporter, Sadly some countries can offer way more items than we can.
Trade deals - already commented on as far as the UK is concerned. Bigger markets go to the head of the queue. They often take years anyway.
Defence alliances - hang on what is NATO for? They are just smokey mirrors really as are the 2 recent ones. Deals where a side will put boots on the ground if there are problems is an entirely different area.
Exporting brain power. Well mine has been exported several time over many years. There can be 2 reasons. Knowledge and cost, Cost can be an extremely effective one of late but they always catch up and the work goes at some point as they want it as well. Japan made a lot of use of this sort of idea early on.
LOL Well we do now get our duty free where ever we go and pubs can throw their glasses away and buy ones with crowns on. Our volumes have never been the same as typical EU anyway and not being able to stick a crown on may even be a myth.
Changes - well the UK never agreed to the change in the definition of what a sausage should be. Same applies to anything they might choose to do. LOL The change would have lead to healthier sausages but crap could no longer be called a sausage.
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What are you doing to help these "deprived" people that you are so concerned about J&K? Has your private development given them any work? I've known many such estates and the people thereon. Those with drive move away to get jobs. There are 5.3 million people on out-of-work benefits, yet we are told that businesses cannot recruit staff. We have a huge national debt and all sorts of other problems, yet we pay 5 million not to work. Why not put those 5 million to good use!
How are five million Brits without work?
Last week, I came across a figure so staggering that I was convinced it was wrong: 5.3 million Brits (almost the population of Scotland) are on out-of-work benefits. How could this be, with ministers so regularly boasting that unemployment stands at a 40-year low? How could it be, when a...
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But neither Ukraine or Russia are in The EU. So for ensuring peace in EU countries, I'm sure you would agree The EU has been very effective. EU can't be responsible for the rest of the world.
You mean the Russians? Champions of Brexit and war with their neighbours. Pfft.
I'm sure the fiscal decisions are made by the right people, regards borrowing etc. But I fail to connect the analogy. Brexit is making the UK financially weaker with Brexer politicians saying it could take 50 years to recover.
Are you saying because the UK has a long peroid of repayment for her loans, and say that period happens to be 50 years, that the catastrophuk that is Brexit is ok because that will take 50 years also? I suppose you could also tie it to my father in laws marriage of 50 years too. Oh and the golf course up the road is celebrating 50 years since it was founded.
The sausage wars are back again. Tried to find details on the first one. Now it's uk refusing to hold EU food regulations. The earlier one mostly concerned meat content. A cynical comment was that the great British Banger so fiercely defended would have to be called an offal tube. These it seems were a good nutritional basic part of the British diet......................... That is what was said at the time - one particular Tory.Read this carefully and some people may realise why these sort of things happen. It can just be trying to keep their political party together.
Boris Johnson’s phony sausage war
The UK has a long history of picking pointless fights with Brussels.
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Brexit is one big con. There's talk about Imperil units making a comeback as part of our 'Brexit freedoms'. I have never read such utter tripe.
Read this carefully and some people may realise why these sort of things happen. It can just be trying to keep their political party together.
Boris Johnson’s phony sausage war
The UK has a long history of picking pointless fights with Brussels.
Brexit - massive pile of poo.
A shortage of jobs was foreseen yonks ago. BBC did some work on it - what will people do with their spare time. Productivity and profit tends to mean fewer and fewer people needed. Latest is self service in supermarkets. The DWP some time ago - more computerisation. Driverless taxi's maybe some time. Deliveries by drones, Manufacture - rather special purpose machines that don't need many people and robots. CNC. The levels of that can vary dramatically depend on quantities. Some produce 1 offs reducing skills and machines needed the old way. Some produce the same part all of the time - lots of automation then.
Ukraine and covid has caused countries to be more concerned about logistics. Biden for instance want his chips back as his own manufactures have problems in some areas. Part of the answer - it seems Taiwan will build a large plant in the USA.
Other aspects - some noises suggest that the EU may expand it's arms industry collectively. Eurofighter is an example. Why buy USA, make your own. What will they do about chips - well there is a pretty large market there which is well sorted out as there is in the USA. UK ????? We have some production. High end is probably attractive but there may be more money in other semiconductor areas.
Foreign owned companies. Musk smells a bit of a depression so want to cut people. More likely out of the USA? He also said everybody to cease working from home or leave the company. We've had all sorts here that have eventually gone - why?
Waffle waffle waffle swerve. Just answer the question.
Took us 50 years to repay our war loan. Would you rather that government not borrowed it in the first place?
Absolutely.....
I'm sure the fiscal decisions are made by the right people, regards borrowing etc. Avoidable Brexit is also a pile of poo and seeks to damage the country financially for the next 50 years unlike the loans the UK has to take.
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Except the UK.
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