Towel rail

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We inherited in our kitchen a simple towel rail, hand-made from 22mm copper pipe in a ‘ladder’ arrangement (imagine an H with top and bottom rails), total length of pipe about 12ft. I need to re-plumb it into our newly configured CH system and am contemplating the best way to connect it up. It’s mounted on the side of the boiler cupboard, so various options are possible.

It wants to be hot all the time - or at least whenever the boiler fires - which points to it being placed the boiler side of any flow-control valves. I don’t fancy putting it across the flow and return as it would make a huge short-circuit (it has no stop-down valves of its own, and even if it did they’d be hard to regulate because the temperature drop is so small across it). Nor do I fancy putting it in series with either the flow or return so that all circulation is forced through it, not least because it’s fed by a stub of of 15mm pipe.

How about putting it in PARALLEL with the return? The return pipe is vertical at this point, so I guess that some hot water will find its way around the rail by drift. It doesn’t need much flow to keep it hot because its thermal loss is low. NB the shape is symmetrical, with both feed and output on the bottom (separated - imagine the lugs on a circlip) so there won't be much convection by gravity.

Is this unorthodox? Is it likely to work? What would building regs say about it, obsessed as they are with TRVs, lagged pipes etc.?

Thanks
Paul
 
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Seeing as no-one has replied to you I thought I'd reply. It seems quite a reasonable idea to me. Your towel rail is just like a big return pipe anyway isn't it. Anyone else see why putting the towel rail on parallel with the return would cause a problem?
 
Stuff the building regs, why not make the towel rail the return pipe? Never mind the parallel bit. Keep that piece of pipe to clout JP if he turns up.
 
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It's a return pipe, building regs don't say anything.
 
Stuff the building regs? Oilman, I'm ashamed of you. Anyway, you may not have noticed the bit about it being fed by a 15mm stub. You wouldn't want the entire return system to be squeezed through a narrow pipe surely? Uncle John may well have something to say about that.

We've decided to scrap the hand-made job because it looks plug ugly and Focus are doing a much nicer one about the same size for 40 quid. The question remains, though - plumb it in parallel or across the return & flow?

Another thought: If plumbed in series, on the boiler side of all valves, would it substitute as an auto-bypass?

Thanks for your input, guys.
Paul
 
Good point, Peter. Haven't bought it yet but I see where you're coming from...
 
If you connect it in parallel, the inlet should go in at the top and the outlet at the bottom, or the convection cannot work properly.
 
Thanks for the tip. If it doesn't work I shall ask the Fat One to reverse gravity by the Laying On Of Hands from his helicopter.
 
If you look at JP veeeeery closely, you can see smaller fat blokes in orbit around his waist. ;)
 
PaulAH said:
Good point, Peter. Haven't bought it yet but I see where you're coming from...


Where am I coming from? I'm not sure I know myself.

Is your pipework the two pipe system?
 
What - straight flow and return? Yup. I guessed you would say that if the towel warmer has valves, treat it like any other rad and fit in series across the pair.
 
does your flow pipe go into one end of the radiator and come out the other end and same again with all the radiators or is there a main flow pipe with branches off to the inlet valve for all the radiators and branches off the outlet valve to a main return pipe? The first is the onepipe system, the second is the two pipe system.
 
Two pipe (one end of rad connected to 22mm flow pipe, the other end connected to 22mm return pipe in every case).

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