Two rcbb. One tripped

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Hi
Could someone tell me if this board has the left hand items controlled by the left green switch and the right side by the right green switch. The previous board didn’t have them split

Tenant has lost shower and lights so guess the right one just needs lifting and then try and see why it has tripped.

thanks.

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Yep, everything to the left of the first rccb, left of the main switch, so 5 circuits by the looks of it. Might be easy to pinpoint, could be difficult and may need an electrician.
 
Switch the five mcbs off then switch the rcd on then switch the mcbs on one by one, that should find the faulty circuit.

Unless neutral to earth fault then the rcd wont turn on with the mcbs off.
 
I suppose we should write a standard reply for this problem, it happens so often, @pete01 is correct for step one. Last thing any landlord wants is to call out an emergency electrician, that's expensive, so better if swapped to RCBO's, that way only one circuit is lost at a time, so fast response is not so important.

But his reference to neutral earth faults, is a good one, unplug rather than just switch off where you can, this ensures both lives (line and neutral) are disconnected. With a FCU switch off is often better than removing the fuse.

In your case it seems you have off-peak power, I note the "contactor" written under four of the MCB's one says "Time Clock" and we can see one to left, it is important this is set to correct time, but also it means storage heaters and water heater are only powered as set times, they all use mineral insulated elements, the mineral is hydrophilic, i.e. it attracts water, so the slightest damage to the seals, and it can start tripping an RCD. The same elements also used in cookers, freezers, washing machines, but in your case, if on resetting it does not trip, then may be worth temporary just long enough to test, turning on the time clock. Make sure set back to correct time after.

As an electrician, I have three tools to help me. Diffrence line neutral 8 Feb 24 reduced.jpgVC60B.jpgLoop-test-socket.jpg these are not cheap, so not the tools a landlord would really want to buy, there is a fourth machine, we often call it a PAT tester, the problem a landlord has, is he can test his own equipment, but has no idea what the tenant may plug in. The first machine shown is often not used, but on the main incoming tails as shown, it shows the total background leakage, and allows one to test all together, and can show where the faults are a combination of items how they mount up. I find it handy to see if we have something getting near to tripping the system. My tester cost me £35, but many only measure in 10 mA increments, so need to be careful it will measure in 1 mA increments.

But the real question is when is it not worth DIY, at what point does one say, call the electrician? The other is, if the fault is something the tenant owns, how would they feel paying the bill? Never lived in rented property, so don't know.
 
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If the right hand RCD won’t reset, then turn off the 5 mcbs to the left of it, then reset the RCD.

Once the RCD has reset turn on the mcbs 1 by 1 but leave about 10 seconds between each one - you will probably find that resetting one mcb will trip the RCD, so leave this MCB off and reset the rest.

Then get a spark round.

If possible make the most recent EICR available to the spark
 
If the right hand RCD won’t reset, then turn off the 5 mcbs to the left of it, then reset the RCD.

Once the RCD has reset turn on the mcbs 1 by 1 but leave about 10 seconds between each one - you will probably find that resetting one mcb will trip the RCD, so leave this MCB off and reset the rest.
If that works you could follow up by switching all the others off again and just that one on to see if it still trips. If so that is the faulty circuit, if not, then it could be cumulative leakage.
 
If that works you could follow up by switching all the others off again and just that one on to see if it still trips. If so that is the faulty circuit, if not, then it could be cumulative leakage.

A spark with decent earth leakage clamp meter required

And to add if the “faulty” circuit is a socket circuit, then the next step is to unplug everything on said circuit and try the mcb again. Faulty plugged in goods is very common these days
 
A spark with decent earth leakage clamp meter required

And to add if the “faulty” circuit is a socket circuit, then the next step is to unplug everything on said circuit and try the mcb again. Faulty plugged in goods is very common these days
And switch off any fcu's
 
A spark with decent earth leakage clamp meter required
I know mine
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is on the cheap side, around £35, and measures in 1 mA increments, the meters designed to measure earth leakage often go down to 0.1 mA increments, but most of the clamp on meters only measure in 10 mA increments, even with a price tag well over £100, so may be a problem finding a spark with a "decent" clamp on meter, I had to hunt, wanted 1 mA increments and DC, must admit the DC is not that good.
 
Switch the five mcbs off then switch the rcd on then switch the mcbs on one by one, that should find the faulty circuit.

Unless neutral to earth fault then the rcd wont turn on with the mcbs off.
If the circuit breakers are off then no load will be flowing through the RCCB, so it should reset. But if it's a neutral/Earth fault then it won't reliably indicate which circuit is causing it, and may operate if any of them are on. It's not a way to indicate the culpable circuit.
 
If the circuit breakers are off then no load will be flowing through the RCCB, so it should reset. But if it's a neutral/Earth fault then it won't reliably indicate which circuit is causing it, and may operate if any of them are on. It's not a way to indicate the culpable circuit.
So you shouldn't switch off all the mcbs then reset the rcd then switch on one by one, I've been doing it for years don't know what I'll do now.
 
So you shouldn't switch off all the mcbs then reset the rcd then switch on one by one, I've been doing it for years don't know what I'll do now.
It won't help with a neutral/Earth fault, but simply provide misleading information.
 
It won't help with a neutral/Earth fault, but simply provide misleading information.
What about Live to earth

All mcbs off rcd back on switch mcbs on 1 by 1 when rcd trips that's the faulty circuit. Nothing misleading at all.
 

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