Two tier moderating.

[noseall]

Were the 9/11, 7/7, London Bridge attackers and the Manchester arena bombers conflating innocent members of the public with the U.K. and USA governments?

Nothing to do with your imaginary hatred of Jews nonsense.

 

[noseall]

Were the October 7 attackers conflating innocent unarmed festival goers with the state of Israel?

Nothing to do with your imaginary hatred of Jews nonsense.

 

[noseall]

infest.

Lol, says filly the troll.

 

[Mottie]

You’ve mentioned a load of terrorists…that committed acts of terror.


I am talking about people…

….from Palestine who went on a day trip to Israel, had a minor scrap and brought a few souvenirs home with them. Nothing to see here. Move on…..

 

[Odds]

Nothing to see here. Move on…..

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

You can still read the posts in there?

So tell us about these supposed jihadist posts.

Why on earth would I bother, post after post of anti Jew ***t. No,, you crack on with it.

If you don't read the posts, because you think they will contain something you dislike, how in God's name can you claim to know what's in those posts?

I'll say again and again, Jews in Europe, UK, USA Russia, etc have no say nor influence on the actions of the Israeli state.
All criticism is of the actions of the Israel government' and state's policies and actions.

Because there is no moral nor decent, nor logical defence to the genocidal actions of the Israeli state, it is not acceptable, for you and others, to conflate anti-Semitism with criticism of the Israeli state.
Indeed, your resort to accusations of anti-Semitism is indicative that even you have exhausted any possible defence for the Israeli genocidal policy against Palestinians, and yet you continue to support and promote that policy and action of the Israeli state despite there being no justification for it.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Were the 9/11, 7/7, London Bridge attackers and the Manchester arena bombers conflating innocent members of the public with the U.K. and USA governments?

Your question doesn't make sense.
No-one is conflating terrorists with innocent members of the public with the UK and USA governments.
I suggest you calm down and try and make sense of your own sentence.

Here's a definition of 'conflate' to help you.
: to bring together : blend
: confuse
: to combine

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I wouldn't know as I've been banned from threads that you and they infest.

Why have you been banned ?

Exact reason please

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Were the October 7 attackers conflating innocent unarmed festival goers with the state of Israel?

After the 1967 war, Israel criminalised normal civil actions by Palestinians. Actions that you and I take for normal day to day life,

Two months after Israel occupied Palestinian and Arab territories in the 1967 war, its government issued Military Order 101 which essentially criminalised civic activities under the basis of “hostile propaganda and prohibition of incitement”.
The order, which is still in use in the occupied West Bank, outlaws the participation and organisation of protests, printing and distributing political material, waving flags and other political symbols, and any activity that demonstrates sympathy for an organisation deemed illegal under military orders.
Three years later, another military order (378) was issued by the Israeli government. This established military courts, and basically outlawed all forms of Palestinian resistance to the Israeli occupation as “terrorism”.

Hundreds of other military orders have been issued and implemented since then to curtail any Palestinian civic and political expression.

Under the Fourth Geneva Convention, it is against international law for an occupying power to transfer an occupied people from the occupied territory.

There are 1,264 Palestinian administrative detainees, which means that they are held indefinitely behind bars without facing trial or any charges. This practice, a remnant of the British Mandate era, can be extended indefinitely based on “secret evidence”, meaning that a detainee can spend months if not years in prison without being charged.

Yet Israel does this on a normal basis, transferring prisoners out of the territory in which they were arrested and which their family lives.
Israel has been persistently breaking international law since 1967.

The purpose of the 7 October raid was to capture some Israelis as a bargaining for the release of some of the Palestinian unlawfully held prisoners for year, without charge, without trial, and held indefinitely, and against international law.
As you've said, yourself and no doubt so does filly, collateral damage , i.e. civilians are killed, during such actions.

The big difference is that Israel 'carelessly' even intentionally targets civilians and it has been doing so since 1967.
But you and filly brush it off as collateral damage.
When Israeli civilians are victims of collateral damage, you support and argue for genocidal collective retribution is launched against Palestinians, on top of the subjugation, starvation, destruction of infrastructure, and continued detention of prisoners.

You can't in all honesty argue that Palestinian resistance against their oppressors is unjustified when they have been targeted by their oppressors for nearly 60 years, and then argue that collective genocidal action against Palestinians by their Israeli oppressors is equally justified.

 

[ellal]

Why have you been banned ?

Exact reason please

Defamation?

By filly knowingly making false claims of anti-semitism!

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Defamation?

By knowingly making false claims of anti-semitism!

I.e. creating disinformation?

 

[ellal]

You can't in all honesty argue that Palestinian resistance against their oppressors is unjustified when they have been targeted by their oppressors for nearly 60 years, and then argue that collective genocidal action against Palestinians by their Israeli oppressors is equally justified.

Sadly some people can't take in the history of the conflict, and pick and choose who they believe is right and who is wrong...

And because there are a lot of people like that around the world, this conflict is a never ending one...

The ONLY solution at this point in time is a two state one based on the 1967 borders...

But the extremists in Israel have never actually accepted that, otherwise it would have happened already...

Thus you get extremists on the Palestinian side...

It's a lose lose situation!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Defamation?

By filly knowingly making false claims of anti-semitism!

Or abuse.

Can't see any other reasons

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Or abuse.

Can't see any other reasons

Resort to false allegations because he can no longer justify the unjustifiable genocidal actions of Israel.

 

[ajohn]

A bit of help - for some
gerund or present participle: conflating

1. combine (two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc.) into one.
   "the urban crisis conflates a number of different economic, political, and social issues"

late Middle English (in the sense ‘fuse or melt down metal’): from Latin conflat- ‘kindled, fused’, from the verb conflare, from con- ‘together’ + flare ‘to blow’.

So now explain just what was being conflated.