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Just googled it, it brings up some diy site with a guy called WDIK asking about it. 
type of wires for central heating components?
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I seem to have stirred up a real hornets nest among the pros on this site!
Surely it is better to point the non-pro in the direction of "best practice" than to confuse him with the differences between the 15th, 16th and 17th Editions!
I agree D_H, best practice would say don't relabel the earth labelled wire.
As for WDIK, you cannot quote wiring regulations when it suits you, and then suggest a lifetime of 'experience' overrules them when it suits you. I too have worked in the electrical industry for some years, and have often heard presumptions stated as facts by installers.
Just like with CORGI registration, the rules come first, experience second. So lets see the rules supporting your point, tell us about your long and rewarding experience afterwards, if you must.
As for WDIK, you cannot quote wiring regulations when it suits you, and then suggest a lifetime of 'experience' overrules them when it suits you. I too have worked in the electrical industry for some years, and have often heard presumptions stated as facts by installers.
Just like with CORGI registration, the rules come first, experience second. So lets see the rules supporting your point, tell us about your long and rewarding experience afterwards, if you must.
I havent quoted any wiring regulations at all
as for the rest of it is it necessary to indulge in unpleasentary? unless you get a kick out of it?
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Simond wrote
No. The experience comes first and was here since the year dot long before any rules or regulations were dreamt up.
Lets face it the rules only surfaced to help the likes of simond to understand things better and line the pockets of the pen pushers.
Instead of trying to achieve 1 upmanship all the time and show how smart he is simond would be better off listening to those better experienced than himself IMO.
No. The experience comes first and was here since the year dot long before any rules or regulations were dreamt up.
Lets face it the rules only surfaced to help the likes of simond to understand things better and line the pockets of the pen pushers.
Instead of trying to achieve 1 upmanship all the time and show how smart he is simond would be better off listening to those better experienced than himself IMO.
Balenza wrote
You may be more experienced than me.
But then again, you may not. Because this is the internet and you might be a hairy ar*ed baboon.
The first wiring regs were published by the IEE in 1882. If, as you suggest, your experience comes first, you must be at least 140 years old.
Rules are made to prevent ignoramuses from endangering others. It's about time you learnt that. At your age, you should know better.
You may be more experienced than me.
But then again, you may not. Because this is the internet and you might be a hairy ar*ed baboon.
The first wiring regs were published by the IEE in 1882. If, as you suggest, your experience comes first, you must be at least 140 years old.
Rules are made to prevent ignoramuses from endangering others. It's about time you learnt that. At your age, you should know better.
Simon
Im a bit confused about this wiring centre i recently installed
any advice gratefully accepted
Im a bit confused about this wiring centre i recently installed
any advice gratefully accepted
Simond wrote
And the experience was there long before that.
Probably hundreds of years old .
Thankfully some people have enough wit not to need to refer to them all the time.
I have my own set of rules which I abide by.
Its about time you learnt that.
I should ?.
And the experience was there long before that.
Probably hundreds of years old .
Thankfully some people have enough wit not to need to refer to them all the time.
I have my own set of rules which I abide by.
Its about time you learnt that.
I should ?.
WDIK
Theres a simpler method for wiring S plan, you don't need that amount of cables.
ps
Very neatly done
Theres a simpler method for wiring S plan, you don't need that amount of cables.
ps
Very neatly done
WDIK wrote;
There are thousands of sparks making panels like this up and down the country. DIN rail contactors have been around for decades, a set of traffic lights in the UK has a panel more sophisticated than this, FFS.
It seems you have assumed (wrongly) that my experience is based mainly in heating -you would be mistaken.
I do not like untruths being represented as fact, and to get back to the point, you can use cables without a CPC. There is no regulation forbidding this.
Enough of the silly pictures, my 14 yr old wires up DMX dimmers on 3 phase elecs but it doesn't make him an electrician - or a photographer.
There are thousands of sparks making panels like this up and down the country. DIN rail contactors have been around for decades, a set of traffic lights in the UK has a panel more sophisticated than this, FFS.
It seems you have assumed (wrongly) that my experience is based mainly in heating -you would be mistaken.
I do not like untruths being represented as fact, and to get back to the point, you can use cables without a CPC. There is no regulation forbidding this.
Enough of the silly pictures, my 14 yr old wires up DMX dimmers on 3 phase elecs but it doesn't make him an electrician - or a photographer.
Absolutely disagree.
Anyone who calls themselves an electrician should be able to assemble such a panel.
Would you care to detail what specialist knowledge is required? How to clip a DIN fuseholder to a rail? How to wire up a 3P isolator? Or a row of DIN mounted connector blocks?
But back to the point we started the mudslinging about. Since you seem to speak for qualified electricians and are impressed by simpleton panels, where is the reg that says every cable must have a CPC??????
TWO PINTS OF LAGER AND A PACKET OF CRISPS -----PLEASE
PS: there's not. Not
Anyone who calls themselves an electrician should be able to assemble such a panel.
Would you care to detail what specialist knowledge is required? How to clip a DIN fuseholder to a rail? How to wire up a 3P isolator? Or a row of DIN mounted connector blocks?
But back to the point we started the mudslinging about. Since you seem to speak for qualified electricians and are impressed by simpleton panels, where is the reg that says every cable must have a CPC??????
TWO PINTS OF LAGER AND A PACKET OF CRISPS -----PLEASE
PS: there's not. Not
Did you have a formal education?
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