UK Energy policy lurches from incompetent to disastrous

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JohnD said:
"Hitachi has shelved its new nuclear power station project at Wylfa in Wales in a move that triggers questions about the future of UK energy policy.

The company formally resolved to halt the project at a board meeting in Tokyo on Thursday. It will write off ¥300bn ($2.8bn) of work in progress.

The Japanese company’s decision to abandon the project means the UK’s programme of new nuclear construction is hanging by a thread after Toshiba quit a similar project at Moorside in Cumbria last year."
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Plan B.

The state builds them. Our existing ones are mostly state-owned already.
 
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Shelved or put on hold whilst the funding model is sorted out?
 
ellal said:
Look at the bright side...

We won't need the same energy supply capacity when we leave the EU, so we'll be 'quids in'...

Brexit - the gift that keeps on giving (y)
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How are you managing to associate national strategic energy planning over decades with Brexit?

Do you actually have a clue or just throw random words together for the sake of it?
 
^woody^ said:
How are you managing to associate national strategic energy planning over decades with Brexit?
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Less economic activity, less demand for energy...

Simples :)



Ask smogg when he expects UK PLC to get any benefits of Brexit if you don't believe me ;)
 
SirGalahad said:
I wasn't comparing their production profiles just surprised we get more from wind currently.

I understand NP is better run for base loads. Renewable have their place in energy provision.
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Ok, no worries.
 
wobs said:
Ok, no worries.
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You know your way round energy production. What's your take on Hitachi pulling out?

I read about WAMSR which has potential but the concern is how you can construct the piping to carry the radioactive slurry around?

Has nuclear tech been put on the back burner with regards to what happened in Japan?
 
ban-all-sheds said:
Plan B.

The state builds them. Our existing ones are mostly state-owned already.
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Au contraire...
(unless of course you mean the French State?)

As of Jan 2019

"Currently, there are 15 operating reactors in the UK totalling 9.5 GWe capacity. The last operating Magnox reactor – Wylfa 1 – shut down in December 2015. This left seven twin-unit AGR stations and one PWR, all owned and operated by a subsidiary of France's EDF called EDF Energy."

What the UK state does 'own' though are the decommissioning/clean-up costs...

"The latest official NDA estimate put the total cost of UK nuclear decommissioning at £164bn"

But of course the taxpayer is also paying most of the £60bn cost of decommissioning North Sea oil and gasfields.

Privatise the profits and socialise the debt!
 
SirGalahad said:
You know your way round energy production. What's your take on Hitachi pulling out?

I read about WAMSR which has potential but the concern is how you can construct the piping to carry the radioactive slurry around?

Has nuclear tech been put on the back burner with regards to what happened in Japan?
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Hitachi seem to be pulling out due to economic/political reasons, rather than any technical reasons. Brexit is no doubt a factor, as the Government is ploughing so much resource (and money) at it. We could be making the UK so much better without such a distraction.

As for the technology, I'm sure Molten Salt Reactors are fine, but personally, I'm in favour of closed loop system, and the PRISM system would seems a sensible approach. It can produce fuel as well as burn fuel, which means that you use less uranium out of the ground for a given amount of GWh. Also, the spent fuel that ends up in deep geological disposal is far safer.

I'm also in favour of renewables of course, and wind/solar are currently the best way forward ATM for that.
 
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