UK Inward Investment Diverted to France Again

[JohnD]

(tbh the whole work ethics of the EU continent is different to that of the UK)

that must expain why German industry has fallen so far behind the quality and productivity levels of Britain.

Ooooops, my mistake.

I got that the wrong way round.

 

[sxturbo]

that must expain why German industry has fallen so far behind the quality and productivity levels of Britain.

Ooooops, my mistake.

I got that the wrong way round.

Fyi I wasn't being negative towards the way they work in Europe.. I apologise if I was being too positive, I know you don't like positivity and try your hardest to find only the negativity

The Germans are efficient with their time, they always have been.

Each country has its own natural way of working.

 

[sxturbo]

are you looking forward to the day when any bits of British industry worth having, are foreign-owned?

Pretty certain that happened already under the EU, maybe you must have missed it..

 

[Captain Nemesis]

The French attitude to work is very different to that of the UK (tbh the whole work ethics of the EU continent is different to that of the UK), they work to rule, 2 hour lunch breaks etc etc, they very much work to live rather than live to work like the UK.

I deal with a handful of French companies through work and they are rather difficult to deal with. Nice when you go over their and we're all pally with each other, but start asking them to do things or try and get anyone in the afternoon it becomes a little tricky.

That being said I do feel they have a better quality of work life balance than the UK.

I don't know if the above plays any part in deciding where to open faxtories

My experience is different. 2-hour lunchbreaks are an exception. Afternoon absence ditto.

 

[sxturbo]

My experience is different. 2-hour lunchbreaks are an exception. Afternoon absence ditto.

But the very fact is, having dealt with Renault trucks, Baudouin engines , and various other french suppliers, 2 hour lunch breaks are in fact part of the norm, though this tradition is slowly falling by the wayside.

"A typical lunch break at work in France lasts at least 1 hour and is never taken at your desk. We value eating slowly and being seated at a table to do so. If you are having a "social lunch" with your team or a client, plan for a 2 hour break—or even more if it’s an important meeting."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.trello.com/take-a-lunch-break-french-tradition?hs_amp=true

 

[Captain Nemesis]

this tradition is slowly falling by the wayside.

Maybe at different rates.

"A typical lunch break at work in France lasts at least 1 hour and is never taken at your desk. We value eating slowly and being seated at a table to do so.

I actually think thats the right way to do it.

If you are having a "social lunch" with your team or a client, plan for a 2 hour break—or even more if it’s an important meeting."

Same here - Ive known "business" lunches to finish after midnight. I thought you were talking about regular day-to-day lunch breaks.

 

[^woody^]

because it's cheap and the UK government dislikes pesky rights and benefits for workers.

Cheap? You are mistaken, the UK is notorious for its burden of additional work related costs.

As for dislike rights of workers, not so, apparently workers can now say how wrong being a tranny is.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Your dislike of any societal changes which have taken place in the last 100 years is relevant why?

 

[^woody^]

that must expain why German industry has fallen so far behind the quality and productivity levels of Britain.

Ooooops, my mistake.

I got that the wrong way round.

No you didn't. Volkswagon [cough] literally cough.

Problems with the home built navy ships and submarines.

Machinery issues

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

That's odd. Why would any EU country/company, let alone one predominantly French owned invest in old Blighty?

Airbus opens new £40M aerospace research centre in UK (metal-am.com)

"France is at the core of Airbus skills, technologies, innovation and production". Airbus

UK electricity bills will be increased by £10 - £20 for each household when Hinkley Point comes on stream.
Of course if the pound falls any further that additional cost will rise even further.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

My experience is different. 2-hour lunchbreaks are an exception. Afternoon absence ditto.

Sandwiches at the desk for lunch is becoming a norm in French offices.
But the traditional blue collar and rural workers do still enjoy the restaurant lunchtime meals.

 

[JohnD]

Problems with the home built navy ships and submarines.

that's interesting. Did France recently build an aircraft carrier with no aircraft?

Two that both leaked when they went in the water?

 

[^woody^]

that's interesting. Did France recently build an aircraft carrier with no aircraft

You are spouting SNP shiite.

All aircraft carriers are built without aircraft, just like the Charles deGaulle was. Have you seen the QE now, seen what's taking off and land landing on it? Hint, they are not seagulls.

 

[JohnD]

QE now

but not when launched.

perhaps you can point out any factual inaccuracies in this article:

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Editors' Pick|Jun 28, 2020,08:00am EDT|32,156 views
"Britain Spent So Much On Two Giant Aircraft Carriers, It Can’t Afford Planes Or Escorts

David Axe
Forbes Staff
Aerospace & Defense
I write about ships, planes, tanks, drones, missiles and satellites.



The United Kingdom is spending nearly $8 billion building two new large, conventionally-fueled aircraft carriers and equipping them with F-35B Lightning II stealth jump jets.


HMS Queen Elizabeth is scheduled to deploy for the first time in 2021, ending a seven-year carrier gap that began in 2014 when the Royal Navy decommissioned the last of its three, Cold War-vintage light carriers.


The U.K. military by then had already sold off the carriers’ Harrier jump jets.


Queen Elizabeth and her sister Prince of Wales are impressive vessels. More than 930 feet long and displacing around 70,000 tons, they are bigger and more modern than every other flattop in the world except the U.S. Navy’s 11 nuclear-powered supercarriers.


The carriers in theory are the steely core of a revitalized and reorganized Royal Navy. “Carrier strike provides the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft from a ship to undertake a range of military tasks,” the U.K. National Audit Office explained in a June report. “It is central to the government’s plans for the country’s armed forces.”


But there’s a problem. Having blown billions of dollars building the ships, the U.K. government no longer can afford the aircraft, escorts and support ships that help the flattops deploy, protect them and give them striking power.


Nor can the government afford to modify Queen Elizabeth or Prince of Wales to support amphibious landings, one of the early justifications for cutting existing ships—such as the assault ship HMS Ocean—in order to free up money for the carriers."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...ft-carriers-it-cant-afford-planes-or-escorts/

 

[transam]

that's interesting. Did France recently build an aircraft carrier with no aircraft?

Two that both leaked when they went in the water?

afai recall there was ounce talk of the french building said air craft carrier

lucky they did not

leak blimey they would probably have sunk on there maiden voyage