UK speed camera tolerances revealed (Somewhat).

[Munroast]

The environmental case for speed limit reduction is much harder to dispute than the safety case, I'll agree. So, as a means of incentivising environmental improvements to the nation's vehicle fleet as a whole, would you support the idea of higher speed limits for low emissions vehicles?

It is an interesting thought, maybe they could keep the current speed limits for longer, something needs to change. I do think the days of those 3 ton, 4x4s bombing along at excessive speeds should come to an end, if they are needed for towing horse box or getting 7 kids on the school run, then they don't need to be capable of doing a 100mph. may be they should become 'special type' vehicles and subject to speed limiters and tachographs.

 

[JohnD]

keep an eye out for speed cameras rather than road hazards, I guess...

I don't agree that a "good" driver only has the mental capacity to deal with one thing.

If he's not capable of driving at an appropriate and legal speed while also watching the road, other traffic, and identifying potential hazards, he should go by bus.

 

[Thomasthepiperson]

It’s bad driving what kills not going a few mph over the limit. I don’t condone excessive speeding at all.

 

[motorbiking]

When you look at speed cameras, its easy to argue that an old Gatso or Truvelo, should be hard to miss, but the vast majority of fines are issued from mobile cameras and the new HADECS 3 system. Both of which are largely hidden.

I'm also not convinced high vis makes much difference unless the rider is riding at night. Having ridden high vis police bikes I can say, people still argue sorry mate I didn't see you when you are practically radioactive with the amount of high vis. The issue is how the human brain converts what it sees (with the eyes) to what it expects to see.

Advanced drivers learn to scan rather than look, avoiding keeping their eyes on any one area for more than 2-3 seconds. This helps prevent the brain from filtering the unexpected.

 

[Avocet]

I don't agree that a "good" driver only has the mental capacity to deal with one thing.

If he's not capable of driving at an appropriate and legal speed while also watching the road, other traffic, and identifying potential hazards, he should go by bus.

And yet one of the most frequent arguments made for speed limit reduction and enforcement, is that any human being has a finite amount of attention and therefore shouldn't be allowed to drive at such-and-such speed because the chances of him spotting something are reduced. Same with any other distractions like mobile phones or even car radios (to the extremists). In which case, it follows that any time spent looking for cameras, is time and concentration NOT spent on the job in hand.

 

[Avocet]

It is an interesting thought, maybe they could keep the current speed limits for longer, something needs to change. I do think the days of those 3 ton, 4x4s bombing along at excessive speeds should come to an end, if they are needed for towing horse box or getting 7 kids on the school run, then they don't need to be capable of doing a 100mph. may be they should become 'special type' vehicles and subject to speed limiters and tachographs.

Do you often find they're doing 100 MPH on the school run or towing a horse box then?

 

[Avocet]

When you look at speed cameras, its easy to argue that an old Gatso or Truvelo, should be hard to miss, but the vast majority of fines are issued from mobile cameras and the new HADECS 3 system. Both of which are largely hidden.

I'm also not convinced high vis makes much difference unless the rider is riding at night. Having ridden high vis police bikes I can say, people still argue sorry mate I didn't see you when you are practically radioactive with the amount of high vis. The issue is how the human brain converts what it sees (with the eyes) to what it expects to see.

Advanced drivers learn to scan rather than look, avoiding keeping their eyes on any one area for more than 2-3 seconds. This helps prevent the brain from filtering the unexpected.

Some months ago, I was driving along a single carriageway rural road in overcast daylight, with a National Speed Limit. Far in the distance, I could see a cyclist in high-vis, pedalling along pretty much in the middle of the carriageway. "Bloody typical!", I thought. "Taking up half the bloody road when he could be keeping to the left". I was about 200 yards closer before I say the OTHER cyclist (who was wearing the more customary "tarmac-coloured" Lycra on his inside. For me, a really dramatic example of just how good High-vis is! Obviously, at night, it's not much use - unless it also has retro-reflective patches on it too.