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Theres a lot of that in here too
 
And when you have flushed & brushed, where does the brush go? In one of those little holders or just stood in the corner behind the cistern?

Either way, there is a very high chance that you will be transporting germs from inside the pan, (where they will eventually die and be flushed away), to an open air source that they probably wouldn't get to if you hadn't brushed. It's better to close the lid, flush the toilet, wait till the flush has finished, raise the lid and squirt a continuous stream of bleach all the way around under the rim then close the lid again.

When you flush a toilet there is a very fine mist that rises over the pan and settles on the surrounding areas. So, with the first flush, and the lid in the open position, you are actually spreading fine faecal matter everywhere including your trousers/skirt/pj's etc. With the lid closed the vast majority of this action is contained inside the pan. Once the flush is finished you then apply the bleach, as above, then close the lid. This also helps to keep bleach fumes inside and help destroy any airborne germs inside the pan.

If you do need to remove any staining from the pan it's better to wear disposable rubber gloves, a cleaning agent and use toilet roll as the applicator. This can then be flushed away down the toilet and the gloves put in a plastic bag/lidded waste bin for disposal in the general waste.

Wash your hands thoroughly afterwards obviously. ;)
 
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Wash your hands thoroughly afterwards obviously.
I don’t think you need to wash your hands.
I was watching a documentary recently, it was in Africa. A mother was sitting with a friend (two African ladies together in the bush) there were 3 or 4 infants playing, the dogs were licking the faces of the children, the children were putting their hands in the mouths of the dogs etc.
Anyway, on of the children did a baby poo on its mother’s leg and she just wiped it away with her hand and carried on talking to her friend as if nothing had happened. So, I’m going to save money and water from now on.
 
And when you have flushed & brushed, where does the brush go? In one of those little holders or just stood in the corner behind the cistern?

Either way, there is a very high chance that you will be transporting germs from inside the pan, (where they will eventually die and be flushed away), to an open air source that they probably wouldn't get to if you hadn't brushed. It's better to close the lid, flush the toilet, wait till the flush has finished, raise the lid and squirt a continuous stream of bleach all the way around under the rim then close the lid again.

When you flush a toilet there is a very fine mist that rises over the pan and settles on the surrounding areas. So, with the first flush, and the lid in the open position, you are actually spreading fine faecal matter everywhere including your trousers/skirt/pj's etc. With the lid closed the vast majority of this action is contained inside the pan. Once the flush is finished you then apply the bleach, as above, then close the lid. This also helps to keep bleach fumes inside and help destroy any airborne germs inside the pan.

If you do need to remove any staining from the pan it's better to wear disposable rubber gloves, a cleaning agent and use toilet roll as the applicator. This can then be flushed away down the toilet and the gloves put in a plastic bag/lidded waste bin for disposal in the general waste.

Wash your hands thoroughly afterwards obviously. ;)

Always flush with the lid closed.

Still failing to see the point of bleach, beyond "belt and braces".

If I don't report back, I'll have succumbed to some horrid necrosis, and have been proved wholly foolhardy :ROFLMAO:
 
Still failing to see the point of bleach
You can't flush all the possible pathogens off.
Some.
A bit.
You've probably seen tests where people wash their hands, then swab them onto a petri dish with a culture medium. Almost as many colonies grow as when you don't wash your hands. I found anthrax bacteria once, when I was naive enough to think it might be important. "So what?", was the reaction.
And those are bacteria, which are relatively big. They "stick".
Virions are smaller, and they stick
Prions are smaller again - can be just one protein.
Surgical instruments which are used in patients with CJD (prions) can't be cleaned, even in sterilising liquids and by heat - can't remember the temp but it's hundreds °C. They have to be securely destroyed after first use.

Glass under just an optical microscope can be scratched up visibly - that's micron level, about E-coli size. Under an electron microscope it's like rubble. I've used those quite a bit, you get a things like XRF to see what things are lurking, it's surprising.

Bogs get all sorts of chemicals chucked at them; some of those descalers must attack the atomic surface a bit over time, and they get visibly scratched up when they're old. Probably only middling on the mhos scale.

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Still, I wouldn't worry about it. It's probably pointless.
 
What do you do in all good faith that, when you stop and think about it, might just be pointless?
Something you do "because it's always been that way", "you're supposed to", etc.

Me?

Is there any point putting bleach in the bog?
After all, you flush away the wizz, so nothing to bleach.
And after the solids, you flush, brush, then flush.

Bogs are made of basically impenetrable porcelain, so not a lot to stick anything to anyway.

And brushing is necessary to remove any bacterial films that may try to establish themselves: no amount of bleach will shift a bacterial mat.



Please don't derail this thread with:

- trying to get an answer out of..................
- getting a Gammon / Remoaner to .................

etc etc :D

Nath, is that you mate?
 
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