Un-terminated steel conduit

[sparkwright]

RCD protection for bathrooms? Tho possibly not required when cu was fitted.

Switches should have cpc, particularly if metal switch is to be fitted.

Would like to see those conduits earthed.

 

[ccam108]

RCD protection for bathrooms? Tho possibly not required when cu was fitted.

Towel rail will be on ring main. Light fitting - not sure about this. It is a fully enclosed fitting if that helps.

Switches should have cpc, particularly if metal switch is to be fitted.

Will check tonight.

Would like to see those conduits earthed.

How?

Colin C

 

[sparkwright]

You could earth the conduits by replacing the cu with a metal one, and connecting the conduits with this with the locknuts fortunately left behind.

Or, a quick way would be to fit earth clamps to each conduit (remove paint or rust first) and connect a 4 mm green/yellow cable to them and connect to earth bar in cu.

I prefer the first option.

 

[RF Lighting]

Maybe the conduit is earthed at each socket and lighting point using the CPC which has been pulled in, in which case it's as rough as a badgers ass, but not a huge worry.

 

[flameport]

As to RCD protection, as far as I am aware, only socket outlets require protection, due to entire installation being in steel conduit.

All of the bathroom circuits will require RCDs, so that's at least one of the lighting circuits and the shower as well

 

[ccam108]

As to RCD protection, as far as I am aware, only socket outlets require protection, due to entire installation being in steel conduit.

All of the bathroom circuits will require RCDs, so that's at least one of the lighting circuits and the shower as well

Was that a requirement of the 16th edition as well? This was installed before 2008 I am led to believe.

I found the reasoning behind the red single in the lighting MCB. I walked round and did a visual check of every accessory for earth and polarity. Will post later when I get time.

Colin C

 

[1john]

why don't you want it to comply with current standards, why are you choosing it to comply with the 16th?

 

[ccam108]

why don't you want it to comply with current standards, why are you choosing it to comply with the 16th?

Because as far as I was aware there is no requirement to upgrade installations completed to a previous standard, unless they are being subject to modifications. I am leaving the lighting circuit as-is - it is the ring main I am wanting to extend and I am not after a new shower either (yet).

When I get the chance to post up what I found last night I will start a new thread as these two seem to be drifting together, and my original question has been answered here.

Colin C

 

[1john]

It's your home, where you are going to live, you do as you please, just seems strange to me that it isnt worth the convenience to you down the line to invest a small amount now in making it more versatile, safer and also in compliance with the current regs, which may help you when you come to sell it on.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It's not a case of tweaking a few odds'n'ends to bring it up from 16th compliance to 17th.

On the basis of the photos you've shown us you have got a bl***y awful mess, and I wouldn't trust anything that could have even been looked at by the kind of **** that could do that CU.

You must get the whole installation properly inspected, and, seriously, you need to start looking into the legalities of what was done by whom and when. You could be looking at a bill of several £'00 to sort this out, and if that's down to the seller breaking the law and lying to you then you should go after him as hard as you can.

 

[ccam108]

On the basis of the photos you've shown us you have got a bl***y awful mess, and I wouldn't trust anything that could have even been looked at by the kind of **** that could do that CU.

Lazy, yes. Bloody awful, maybe.

You could be looking at a bill of several £'00 to sort this out,

Ha! If I could afford that then I wouldn't even be posting here - I would get a spark to look at it and replace with the best CU with RCBOs, and replace all accessories with MK edge while he's at it. Reality - I'm a poor student getting married this summer. This is going to be our first home for a couple of years. We have just over 1.5K to furnish and repair this place.

and if that's down to the seller breaking the law and lying to you then you should go after him as hard as you can.

I find the culture of suing people totally disgusting. End of story.

Colin C

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Lazy, yes. Bloody awful, maybe.

Let's hope it's only the former, but the attitude of someone who could do that does not bode well.

Ha! If I could afford that then I wouldn't even be posting here

How much is a funeral these days?

Reality - I'm a poor student getting married this summer. This is going to be our first home for a couple of years.

And what if, in those couple of years your first home burns down, or electrocutes you or your wife?

I find the culture of suing people totally disgusting. End of story.

So you think that if the seller defrauded you, and you end up hideously in debt, or bankrupt, or homeless, or one of you injured or killed because of his lies and criminal negligence that you would be on the moral high ground if you let him get away with it? Grow up.

 

[ccam108]

My original question has been answered, and thanks to those who have done so.

Since this topic has digressed far beyond its original purpose I will not be replying to the circular argument.

Oh and BAS, I am not a child. I am old enough to know that I should deal with anything unsafe in my own home.

Colin C

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I am old enough to know that I should deal with anything unsafe in my own home.

But you don't intend to find out if there is anything unsafe, or fix it if there is, or do anything about the guy who stole from you.

Fair enough.

Good luck.