under kitchen units - black membrane/gyproc unfinished?

[Newboy]

Skirting behind the kitchen cabinets!

And yes I was suggesting that underneath the cupboards should have skirting board - why shouldn't they? just because its out of sight doesnt mean the finish is acceptable (e.g. should we decide to change the kitchen later).

 

[Newboy]

Bovis Homes, one of Britain’s biggest housebuilders, recently had to set aside £7m to repair poorly built new homes sold to customers, and its interim boss publicly apologised to customers.

It's indicative of the poor quality construction that passes as the standard for new build housing - lowest cost materials, minimum effort and 'acceptable' quality.

Everything looks OK on the surface but that's where it ends.

 

[gasbanni]

I suspect this is less acceptable - total lazyness on the part of whoever the trade was. that thing sticking out the ground is a gas pipe.

And yes I was suggesting that underneath the cupboards should have skirting board - why shouldn't they? just because its out of sight doesnt mean the finish is acceptable (e.g. should we decide to change the kitchen later).

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You started the post saying is this normal and the answer is yes it is. The gas pipe is coated and comes up vertically through the screed.....presumably to feed the gas hob. That again in a new build is perfectly normal. You might not like it and that's your perogative. If the kitchen is remodelled and this area is to stay exposed it can easily be brought up to a finished standard. A lot of things beneath the finish arn't so good hence the expression "beauty is only skin deep !"

 

[wifigeek]

You started the post saying is this normal and the answer is yes it is. The gas pipe is coated and comes up vertically through the screed.....presumably to feed the gas hob. That again in a new build is perfectly normal. You might not like it and that's your perogative. If the kitchen is remodelled and this area is to stay exposed it can easily be brought up to a finished standard. A lot of things beneath the finish arn't so good hence the expression "beauty is only skin deep !"

Thanks gasbanni. Thats what I am discovering.. The reason for the initial question is that other newbuilds built by the same builder in the same area have finished skirting underneath the kitchen and no massive sticking out hole penetrations in the ground for all sorts to climb up.. never mind thermal efficiency.

Its alright for those in the trade who understand "dont touch newbuild with a 10ft barge pole" but its kinda alarming to me that any of you find this level of workmanship "normal" or acceptable in any property.

Some context - this is the rest of the house - poor workmanship throughout. http://www.mybellwayhome.co.uk/

 

[gasbanni]

Thanks gasbanni. Thats what I am discovering.. The reason for the initial question is that other newbuilds built by the same builder in the same area have finished skirting underneath the kitchen and no massive sticking out hole penetrations in the ground for all sorts to climb up.. never mind thermal efficiency.

Its alright for those in the trade who understand "dont touch newbuild with a 10ft barge pole" but its kinda alarming to me that any of you find this level of workmanship "normal" or acceptable in any property.

Some context - this is the rest of the house - poor workmanship throughout. http://www.mybellwayhome.co.uk/

It's normal but I don't like or in anyway think it's ok. It's the attention to detail that makes a job and its how I work.

First let me address the skirting board under the units , it's not normally there and when a new kitchen is fitted sometimes it's in the way and you take it out for service runs or whatever ....not always but sometimes. No explanation as to why it's on your neighbours houses. But honestly normally it's not there.

I couldn't tell that the gas pipe was egressing through an unsealed hole ...not acceptable. At all.

The photos you've posted .....what can I say ........garbage. That's the problem with volume house builders screwing the contractors down on price. You just wouldn't get that from a small housebuilding company. I feel for you dissapointment ..........I really do.

I once fitted a boiler and it was faulty from new so the manufacturers engineer had to come out .......anyway he apparently remarked to the householder it was nice to see the installers had cleaned all the flux off the copper pipework. .........something I was taught to do .....He must apparently see a lot of jobs where the installers can't be bothered. Concientiousness you can't legislate that in people.

 

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Bovis Homes, one of Britain’s biggest housebuilders, recently had to set aside £7m to repair poorly built new homes sold to customers, and its interim boss publicly apologised to customers.

As a foreman joiner, and referring only to my own trade, I have to say that a lot of slipshod work is caused by a combination of the price work system, under pricing by the various contractors and the subsequent turning of blind eyes (sometime deliberate, often just sheer negligence) on the part of site managers, QSes, etc. My own niche is interior fit out which has its own particular issues, but I really hate it when I'm given anyone who's just come off price work on housing because almost without exception the work they produce will be slipshod, untidy and is often poorly executed - but it will be done fast - and all the while they'll carp about how little they are earning and they'll invariably want every minute of overtime they can get. Sound familiar, guys? It really boils my blood to have to redo or tart-up so much work that these guys have cranked out, but I've rarely come across exceptions to that model