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simple minds need simple talk and simple direction. Get a chance to change things for the better and simple minds stay put. Who will you vote for ? lol. Vote for the same get the same
 
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simple minds need simple talk and simple direction. Get a chance to change things for the better and simple minds stay put. Who will you vote for ? lol. Vote for the same get the same

You have 20 million receiving welfare payments in the UK of some kind or another.
You have nearly six millon public sector workers with gold plated pensions. That's nearly half the population.
Its no wonder we manufacture sweet fa worth talking about anymore.
So give them more money and they vote for you. Simples.

So what exactly is "changing things for the better in this country " in your mind?
I assume you vote tory?

OOh and we gave the brussels coffers £19.2billion last year so we can remain members of the cartel.
An anglophile US banker recently commented...
“The UK has the same position in Europe as bankers do in society: nobody likes you and nobody listens to you”.
 
I'm not a tory , I'm a socialist. If you want to play in the game you have to be part of it. Being outside of Euroland is so stupid as to be insane. Nobody ever mentions what we get from them. In any case Europe is more than money it's security. My socialism isn't labour or any political party that exists ,yet. I believe that only those who have a bona fide right to be here should have a vote or take advantage of anything that is paid for by tax payers. Illegals from asia must be removed and all those who helped them stay here. None of these have any rights. Being dictated to by these types is wrong. Blaming Europe for our problems is also wrong, perhaps sorting out our own shop first is the logical thing to do. I wish.
 
"Being outside of Euroland is so stupid as to be insane"

How do other countries survive outside euroland?
Like these ones for example....


AFGHANISTAN GSP
ALBANIA WESTERN BALKANS
ALGERIA PAN EURO MED , GSP
AMERICAN SAMOA GSP
ANDORRA CUSTOMS UNIONS (Andorra)
ANGOLA GSP
ANGUILLA OCT, GSP
ANTARCTICA OCT, GSP
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA ACP, GSP
ARGENTINA GSP
ARMENIA GSP
ARUBA OCT, GSP
AUSTRALIA No preferential arrangements applicable
AZERBAIJAN GSP
BAHAMAS ACP, GSP
BAHRAIN GSP
BANGLADESH GSP
BARBADOS ACP, GSP
BELARUS GSP
BELIZE ACP, GSP
BENIN GSP
BERMUDA GSP
BHUTAN GSP
BOLIVIA GSP
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA WESTERN BALKANS
BOTSWANA ACP, GSP
BOUVET ISLAND GSP
BRAZIL GSP
BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY OCT, GSP
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM GSP
BURKINA FASO ACP, GSP
BURUNDI GSP
CAMBODIA GSP
CAMEROON ACP, GSP
CANADA No preferential arrangements applicable
CAPE VERDE GSP
CAYMAN ISLANDS OCT, GSP
CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC GSP
CEUTA OTHERS
CHAD GSP
CHILE LATIN AMERICA
CHINA GSP
CHRISTMAS ISLAND GSP
COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS GSP
COLOMBIA GSP
COMOROS ACP, GSP
CONGO GSP
COOK ISLANDS GSP
COSTA RICA GSP
COTE D'IVOIRE ACP, GSP
CROATIA WESTERN BALKANS
CUBA GSP
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO GSP
DJIBOUTI GSP
DOMINICA ACP, GSP
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ACP, GSP
ECUADOR GSP
EGYPT PAN EURO MED, GSP
EL SALVADOR GSP
EQUATORIAL GUINEA GSP
ERITREA GSP
ETHIOPIA GSP
FALKLAND ISLANDS OCT, GSP
FAROE ISLANDS OTHERS
FIJI ACP, GSP
FRENCH POLYNESIA OCT, GSP
FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS OCT, GSP
GABON GSP
GAMBIA GSP
GEORGIA GSP
GHANA ACP, GSP
GIBRALTAR GSP
GREENLAND OCT, GSP
GRENADA ACP, GSP
GUAM GSP
GUATEMALA GSP
GUINEA GSP
GUINEA-BISSAU GSP
GUYANA ACP, GSP
HAITI ACP, GSP
HEARD AND MC DONALD ISLANDS GSP
HONDURAS GSP
HONG KONG No preferential arrangements applicable
ICELAND EEA, PAN EURO MED
INDIA GSP
INDONESIA GSP
IRAN GSP
IRAQ GSP
ISRAEL PAN EURO MED
JAMAICA ACP, GSP
JAPAN No preferential arrangements applicable
JORDAN PAN EURO MED, GSP
KAZAKHSTAN GSP
KENYA ACP, GSP
KIRIBATI GSP
KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF (NORTH) No preferential arrangements applicable
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (SOUTH) No preferential arrangements applicable
KUWAIT GSP
KYRGYZSTAN GSP
LAOS GSP
LEBANON PAN EURO MED, GSP
LESOTHO ACP, GSP
LIBERIA GSP
LIBYA GSP
LIECHTENSTEIN EEA, PAN EURO MED
MACAU GSP
MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF WESTERN BALKANS
MADAGASCAR ACP, GSP
MALAWI GSP
MALAYSIA GSP
MALDIVES GSP
MALI GSP
MARSHALL ISLANDS GSP
MAURITANIA GSP
MAURITIUS ACP, GSP
MAYOTTE OCT, GSP
MELILLA OTHERS
MEXICO LATIN AMERICA, GSP
MICRONESIA (FEDERATED STATES OF) GSP
MOLDOVA
MONGOLIA GSP
MONTSERRAT OCT, GSP
MOROCCO PAN EURO MED, GSP
MOZAMBIQUE ACP, GSP
MYANMAR GSP
NAMIBIA ACP, GSP
NAURU ACP, GSP
NEPAL GSP
NETHERLANDS ANTILLES OCT, GSP
NEW CALEDONIA OCT, GSP
NEW ZEALAND No preferential arrangements applicable
NICARAGUA GSP
NIGER GSP
NIGERIA GSP
NIUE GSP
NORFOLK ISLAND GSP
NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS GSP
NORWAY EEA, PAN EURO MED
OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES PAN EURO MED
OMAN GSP
PAKISTAN GSP
PALAU GSP
PANAMA GSP
PAPUA NEW GUINEA ACP, GSP
PARAGUAY GSP
PERU GSP
PHILIPPINES GSP
PITCAIRN ISLANDS OCT, GSP
QATAR GSP
RUSSIAN FEDERATION GSP
RWANDA ACP, GSP
SAINT HELENA (INCL ASCENSION ISLAND AND TRISTAN DE CUNHA) OCT, GSP
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS ACP, GSP
SAINT LUCIA ACP, GSP
SAINT PIERRE AND MIQUELON OCT, GSP
SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES ACP, GSP
SAMOA GSP
SAN MARINO CUSTOMS UNIONS (San Marino)
SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE GSP
SAUDI ARABIA GSP
SENEGAL ACP, GSP
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO WESTERN BALKANS
SEYCHELLES ACP, GSP
SIERRA LEONE GSP
SINGAPORE No preferential arrangements applicable
SOLOMON ISLANDS GSP
SOMALIA GSP
SOUTH AFRICA SOUTH AFRICA, GSP
SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS OCT, GSP
SRI LANKA GSP
SUDAN GSP
SURINAME ACP, GSP
SWAZILAND ACP, GSP
SWITZERLAND PAN EURO MED
SYRIA PAN EURO MED, GSP
TAIWAN No preferential arrangements applicable
TAJIKISTAN GSP
TANZANIA ACP, GSP
THAILAND GSP
TIMOR LESTE GSP
TOGO GSP
TOKELAU GSP
TONGA GSP
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO ACP, GSP
TUNISIA PAN EURO MED, GSP
TURKEY CUSTOMS UNIONS (Turkey), PAN EURO MED
TURKMENISTAN GSP
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS OCT, GSP
TUVALU GSP
UGANDA ACP, GSP
UKRAINE GSP
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES GSP
UNITED STATES No preferential arrangements applicable
UNITED STATES MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS GSP
URUGUAY GSP
UZBEKISTAN GSP
VANUATU GSP
VATICAN CITY STATE (HOLY SEE) No preferential arrangements applicable
VENEZUELA GSP
VIET NAM GSP
VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH) OCT, GSP
VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.) GSP
WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS OCT, GSP
YEMEN GSP
ZAMBIA ACP, GSP
ZIMBABWE ACP, GSP
 
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"Nobody ever mentions what we get from them"

So what do we get from them?

OOh yeah silly me.... ...rules and regulations.


A recent ruling was owner operators of small 7 ton lorries not hauling for profit being forced to aquire a haulage license costing thousands.

Guess what?
The gemans didn't force the ruling on their own drivers.

OOh btw... all those countries not under the heel of the german jackboot.
Quite amazing eh?
 
My God, you have got a serious 'no hope' attitude. Bet you are popular down the pub.
 
My "hope" is that the eu crumbles.
And it surely will.
Aside from anything else it will vindicate my grandfathers predictions.
 
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Maybe you like or like living with the enemy. Maybe you like war with your neighbours. Maybe some of us like the idea of living in caves and filth. I don't
 
Well if your living in the squalor of some birmingham council estate then you might as well be in a cave.
 
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Good luck to the 50 y/old guy I bet he isn't living any life of Riley on the sort of benefits he could/can claim.

:D :D Everybody's doin' it. doin' it - screwin' it !!

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If he's indigenous - good luck to you old son. At least there's a chance you've paid 'something' in during your half century on this planet.

If he's an immi - fecck off you useless, scrounging parasite. :evil:
 
simple minds need simple talk and simple direction. Get a chance to change things for the better and simple minds stay put. Who will you vote for ? lol. Vote for the same get the same

You have 20 million receiving welfare payments in the UK of some kind or another.
You have nearly six millon public sector workers with gold plated pensions. That's nearly half the population.
Its no wonder we manufacture sweet fa worth talking about anymore.
So give them more money and they vote for you. Simples.

My brother always leant to the right, not quite as far as me, but definitely someone you could accuse of being a Thatcher's child. In thought and deed he still does.

However, since he started working for the council (though I find saying that he works for the corporation annoys him for some reason, so I use this term as often as possible :LOL: ) fifteen years ago, he always votes Labour.

He has quite rightly worked out that Labour are more likely to make his employment conditions more secure and better paid.

Ironically, he's voting Labour to look after number one - which would have pleased Maggie. Sort of.
 
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