WTF do you think the manufacturers of these things ask for annual servicing?
unvented cylinder - basement
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WTF do you think the manufacturers of these things ask for annual servicing?
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All very sad indeed. My condolences.
But the facts are - your plumber has given you the correct advise. Either cancel your project, or find the savings from somewhere else.
But the facts are - your plumber has given you the correct advise. Either cancel your project, or find the savings from somewhere else.
BTW - I had put the caveat of usually in there. 
and the overstretched remark is also true... even if there is a reasonable reason for it.
and the overstretched remark is also true... even if there is a reasonable reason for it.
I am not ignorant of the pressures involved nor am I ignorant of the dangers of pressurised and heated water. Many years ago I serviced plastics extruding equipment which used super heated water hot enough the melt the raw plastic granules and heat the extrusion nozzles. This water was under several bar pressure and heated by three phase immersion heaters.
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So is there any reason why the cylinder is being installed in the basement? Did you request this?
Why not look for an alternative position for the cylinder that will allow a natural drain for D1/D2?
As previously mentioned you will also have issues draining when maintenance is needed.
If you are looking to save money then you may have to make sacrifices on saving space on other floors, put the project on hold or look at other means of suppyling mains pressure DHW.
Jon
Why not look for an alternative position for the cylinder that will allow a natural drain for D1/D2?
As previously mentioned you will also have issues draining when maintenance is needed.
If you are looking to save money then you may have to make sacrifices on saving space on other floors, put the project on hold or look at other means of suppyling mains pressure DHW.
Jon
Maintenance is not really a problem as those who enjoy that type of work have a large bucket with a sump pump as we need that to drain cylinders for element changes when there is no way out of the property with a natural fall.
This is a common problem in so many flats.
Tonyu
This is a common problem in so many flats.
Tonyu
Can't a large barrel be buried in floor of basement and a sump pump fitted? What about the condensation from boiler? Can the discharge and condensation go straight in barrel, barrel should be big enough and has alarm should the pump fail.
Daniel.
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Danny, if you can find a sump pump that will not only cope with acidic water but also near boiling water, then rock on..
That also meets building regs.
Last few I've done were in basements..... Proper jobs, thousands of square feet. I dred to think what that lot cost. All rigged up to alarms and battery backup.
Last few I've done were in basements..... Proper jobs, thousands of square feet. I dred to think what that lot cost. All rigged up to alarms and battery backup.
Your options are to consider putting a thermal store down there.
We are just doing such a job at the moment.
Or, if any of the cellar is above ground, consider an ACV Smartline, because the discharge is at the top. Just done one of them too.
We are just doing such a job at the moment.
Or, if any of the cellar is above ground, consider an ACV Smartline, because the discharge is at the top. Just done one of them too.
Or if you have room, flow and pressure in the loft, or an opening near ceiling height for a discharge in the cellar, consider a horizontal unvented such a Gledhill Stainlesslite. Did one of these in a cellar conversion, around 18 months ago, in South London,
with Evohome zoning. (Extra wiring belongs to client).
Coincidentally, there's another Evohome powered identical Gledhill horizontal cylinder we specified in a multimillion pound refurb in Richmond on Thames finishing next week.
Coincidentally, there's another Evohome powered identical Gledhill horizontal cylinder we specified in a multimillion pound refurb in Richmond on Thames finishing next week.
Thanks very much Simon!
We have a vaillant ecotec plus 630 boiler and a fabdec excelsior 215l indirect unvented cylinder.
All of the basement is underground but at the ceiling height is slightly above ground. That is where the flue is vented. Maybe you can see from the attached picture. Please use your imagination as its a bit of a before and after job!
Does any of this information affect your advice please?
How much is a thermal store please? Do you have a preferred brand/model?
Thanks again
Ryan
We have a vaillant ecotec plus 630 boiler and a fabdec excelsior 215l indirect unvented cylinder.
All of the basement is underground but at the ceiling height is slightly above ground. That is where the flue is vented. Maybe you can see from the attached picture. Please use your imagination as its a bit of a before and after job!
Does any of this information affect your advice please?
How much is a thermal store please? Do you have a preferred brand/model?
Thanks again
Ryan
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A lot more to supply and fit considering you already have a perfectly serviceable cylinder.
Your plumber has already given you the most cost effective advice.
Your plumber has already given you the most cost effective advice.
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