Vehicle Recovery - Call the experts...

[david and julie]

No I wouldn't think anybody would be punished for the accident, unless that is, someone was injured. I should think there would be very little property damage, save for the truck.

If HSE(if they have that) got involved though, they would probably make a meal over training procedures and record keeping.

 

[JerryD]

Jeez, if the HSE got involved they's ask to see the driver's "Method Statement Document" and "Risk Assement Document" plus they'd ask "Who is your qualified Banksman?" and "We need to see your Lifting On The Edge Of A Drop Insurance"

 

[pipme]

Ok, so a fair bit is over the top .... for anyone who is aware and applies safe practices.
I guess there are many sufferers out there due to blatant negligence ... just take 'white finger' among, for example, metal polishers ... It wasn't enough to just have them polishing, using mops and pastes etc, they were given rotary burrs and grinding wheels ... why ? Because companies failed to spend money on developing decent fixtures, machines and methods, such that there was the minimum excess of material on machined parts .... Seen it all happening in a major company, they would not spend until forced to, too late for some damaged people !! H&S actively reduced accidents and disease year on year ... I found it going over the top when dealing with cynics and potential blatant disregarders of rules.

Just imagine what happens and how one feels if a Lawyer should take 'shortcuts' when acting for you on a property buy or sell ... If he messed up you would want his head on a block !! I mean, he only had to follow the rules, laid down to ensure as much as reasonably possible is done to protect .. his customers interests ... ! Never mind his life or health !

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[AdamW]

Yes, H&S definitely do have a job to do. I work in an office, but we still have H&S people to make sure our desks, chairs, monitors etc are all set up correctly, free eye tests and such. If you are off sick you have to declare if you think work was to blame for any reason (although I doubt anyone has ever said "Yes, I caught it off the bloke who sits opposite me", or "it was something I ate in the canteen".)

If I can prove CRTs hurt my eyes I can get a 19" TFT... any ideas anyone?

But we do occasionally have blatant H&S overload. I work on the top floor, the roof leaked a few months back. A few ceiling tiles were showing that they were being dripped on from above, so H&S cordoned off large areas to make sure people weren't hit by crumbling ceiling tiles. Fair enough. But they had 6 H&S suits standing around looking at it, and just one guy in a boiler suit with a ladder actually putting buckets down and removing broken tiles!

 

[pipme]

Same throughout industry, watch them flock when high profile visitor is due to view a successful project and watch 'em run when the project is a 'no no' ....

 

[kevplumb]

you have a point pip
when it all goes right the suits are in abundance
when it all goes wrong the boilersuits take the flack

 

[pipme]

Back to lorry in the drink.
If ?? The acting arm could operate over the cab, nipped along car park, loaded a car or two across the back end of lorry flatbed, repositioned nose first at quayside, lift submerged car just clear of water until very little draining out .... raise keeping as close to wall as possible that is with vehicle side toward wall, gently reverse drop wreck on dockside, return two cars acting as counterbalance to car park.. job done 'bish bash bosh' !!
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[AdamW]

Would you let someone use YOUR car as a counterweight?

 

[david and julie]

The Hiab wouldn't usually go over the cab because the hydraulic hoses start to wrap around its body. At a guess I would say they have an arc of around 270 deg. In practice there are normally stops which prevent it hitting the cab at the back/sides and also stop the hoses going to tight.

When 360 deg rotation is required (such as brick delivery trucks) the crane would have its own onboard powerpack. These are usually mounted midway. This means a truck 30ft long only needs a reach of say 15ft(in theory) this means the lift can be smaller and lighter.

The further out a lift reaches the less it can lift, which is why heavy machinery removal trucks often have them at the back. This lets you back right upto the job and lift more weight or get away with a smaller and lighter crane.

The big lift in the final piccies is on a tractor unit for loading trailers etc, (probably for containers)

Looking at the piccies I would say he either didn't use the side jacks or
failed to put a length of wood under the foot to spread the weight. He also wasn't far enough forward meaning the lift wasn't directly above the jack anyway.

Although that truck is a bit small, an operative with more experience would of managed.

 

[pipme]

Would you let someone use YOUR car as a counterweight?

Who said ask ? .....What the eye doesn't see ..........

BTW .. The amount the bludy thing is taxed it is a counterweight to all the scroungers out there .... anyway !!!

 

[2scoops0406]

If I can prove CRTs hurt my eyes I can get a 19" TFT... any ideas anyone?

Yeah, do what I did, say that you find the flicker from CRT's extremely uncomfortable. Then allude to the boss that if you fall over foaming at the mouth, then the comapny will get it's a55 sued. Worked for me, but then again my "boss" (the one who write the cheques) is a snivelling little sh1t anyway, also about 5 years my junior, but then at least I'm paid more than him .

 

[pipme]

Team spirit, goodwill, respect ..... kids of today !! I just do not believe it !!

 

[2scoops0406]

Team spirit, goodwill, respect ..... kids of today !! I just do not believe it !!

The good old days eh? ... long gone, it's war now.

 

[pipme]

Ah ha ! Today, is the tomorrow, we worried about yesterday !!

 

[pipme]

Proper job !!