waste oil fired boilers

[bernardgreen]

For starters

Storing oil at your home or business

How to store oil safely, check which oil storage regulations apply and pollution penalties

www.gov.uk

Storing oil at your home or business

How to store oil safely, check which oil storage regulations apply and pollution penalties

www.gov.uk

you also will risk civil action from people adversely affected by fumes from your waste oil heating system.

 

[Mottie]

The salamander heater would burn waste oil

…but you wouldn’t want one in your lounge…….

 

[ericmark]

…but you wouldn’t want one in your lounge…….

The same goes for the rocket wood burner, one of the few wood burners which is condensing, but unlikely any insurance company would give you valid insurance with one fitted.

 

[Exedon]

you also will risk civil action from people adversely affected by fumes from your waste oil heating system.

Exactly that's statutory nuisance territory.

 

[AstonHill]

Just why do you think you can’t buy a waste oil burner for domestic use? Used engine oil is classed as hazardous waste. Unless you take it to a recycling centre, you can’t even get rid of it legally without a permit. You would need a permit to remove it from someone’s premises and both of you would have to be registered and need to issue and keep proper certificated documentation and that’s just for starters. Same with tyres - you just can’t burn them. You’re just a crackpot with all your stupid and dangerous ideas of living off grid and getting something for nothing.

Actully know it all its called a waste transfer note

About 35 years ago before all these regulations came in, I used to have an old boy take waste engine oil from my garage to heat his house and paint his fences with it. He used to lash two 5 gallon drums either side of the rear wheel on his cycle and wobble off on it. I think he said he used to have some drip feeder contraption. Mind you, although he lived in a terraced house, he had his gas, water and electricity disconnected - I assume it was an eighties version of off-grid living. He was basically just one step up from a tramp - he was rotten and he stunk. He eventually died of hypothermia. Sad to say that many of his neighbours didn’t miss him when he was gone as his house was an absolute eyesore. I always get that picture of him in my head whenever I see yet another of your crackpot posts.

what is crack pop about burning free fuel

 

[Mottie]

Actully know it all its called a waste transfer note

Good. So you know about it. Have you got one!

what is crack pop about burning free fuel

Environmental issues. Oh, so you'd think it okay to burn coal if it was free would you? If you don’t know why you just can’t burn anything you like because it’s free, then there’s absolutely no way anyone would be able to educate and convince a self-centred tight fisted thicko like yourself. It's obvious you have no offspring to have any worries about their future health and the environment you will leave behind for them so at least we can be thankful for that.

 

[ericmark]

I was commissioned to write a web page saying how bad burning wood is. I decided to do some research first. It was an eye-opener, I had not even dreamed of the problems. Most linked to burning wood of an unknown origin, one thinks where the harm using stuff others don't want but the wood found in a skip, may have perversities including lead paint. At least with wood you can see some of the problems, but Laburnum looks the same as any other wood, and that is the problem with oil as well, we have put additives in oil which makes it rather nasty.

If it is burnt very hot, then both wood and oil produces less nasty stuff, but that means the burner must run at a set rate, can't turn it up or down to suit requirements, so we look at storing heat, the diagram looks fine, multi fuels can all heat the same radiators etc, the rub is the water heat exchanger, in practice two massive tanks, need to be high, so therm syphon will work, and 200 gallons of water is heavy, so needs reinforced floors to take the weight.

We see the so-called green brigade doing things like making charcoal even showing off doing it, but the stuff they release is very harmful, one needs to catch all the nasties, not pump them out into the atmosphere.

If you are burning waste cooking oil, which has been refined once to start with, then likely not so bad, but engine oil is a big no.

 

[Mottie]

MEthinks Mottie is referring to the Industrial Emissions Directive, see Schedule 13A of the Environmental Planning Guidance for info.

However that is for industrial usage, I see nothing in it that says domestic usage requires a permit, only councils jumping on the "pay us money" bandwagon

Perhaps Mottie can provide further information that shows how you need a permit?
Like a government link?

CBA to look up any relevant acts but I asked the question and think this supplier should know. They didn’t go into specifics though but I think if they are in the business of selling waste oil burners, they would know.

 

[AstonHill]

Good. So you know about it. Have you got one!

For what? i dont transport it

Environmental issues. Oh, so you'd think it okay to burn coal if it was free would you?

yes i do think it ok to burn coal as a matter of a fact

If you don’t know why you just can’t burn anything you like because it’s free, then there’s absolutely no way anyone would be able to educate and convince a self-centred tight fisted thicko like yourself. It's obvious you have no offspring to have any worries about their future health and the environment you will leave behind for them so at least we can be thankful for that.

what enviromental issues; it for thickoss like you to belive in the hoax so you can ruian everyone ells life

 

[AstonHill]

I was commissioned to write a web page saying how bad burning wood is. I decided to do some research first. It was an eye-opener, I had not even dreamed of the problems. Most linked to burning wood of an unknown origin, one thinks where the harm using stuff others don't want View attachment 347822 but the wood found in a skip, may have perversities including lead paint. At least with wood you can see some of the problems, but Laburnum looks the same as any other wood, and that is the problem with oil as well, we have put additives in oil which makes it rather nasty.

If it is burnt very hot, then both wood and oil produces less nasty stuff, but that means the burner must run at a set rate, can't turn it up or down to suit requirements, so we look at storing heat, the diagram looks fine, View attachment 347824 multi fuels can all heat the same radiators etc, the rub is the water heat exchanger, in practice two massive tanks, need to be high, so therm syphon will work, and 200 gallons of water is heavy, so needs reinforced floors to take the weight.

We see the so-called green brigade doing things like making charcoal View attachment 347825 even showing off doing it, but the stuff they release is very harmful, one needs to catch all the nasties, not pump them out into the atmosphere.

If you are burning waste cooking oil, which has been refined once to start with, then likely not so bad, but engine oil is a big no.

but you make no claim to the bad stuff found in the oil or charcoal cooking

 

[AstonHill]

CBA to look up any relevant acts but I asked the question and think this supplier should know. They didn’t go into specifics though but I think if they are in the business of selling waste oil burners, they would know.



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and why can it not be used in a house? did you not ask? or did you 3 bags full sir?

 

[Mottie]

and why can it not be used in a house? did you not ask? or did you 3 bags full sir?

Didn’t want to get into a long pointless conversation that you wouldn’t believe but wait, that’s something you can and should be doing. Why don’t you get on to a few suppliers of waste oil burners and waste their time asking why you can’t burn toxic fuel inside a house.

 

[Mottie]

yes i do think it ok to burn coal as a matter of a fact

But that’s because you are an ignorant idiot.

Where’s that thread of yours gone about the £40 WiFi camera? The one you think you might need two phone lines to operate it? Last I remember you were getting all Ranty about it as it was after last orders as far as I can remember…

 

[AstonHill]

Didn’t want to get into a long pointless conversation that you wouldn’t believe but wait, that’s something you can and should be doing. Why don’t you get on to a few suppliers of waste oil burners and waste their time asking why you can’t burn toxic fuel inside a house.

what do you think you just burn it inside of the house with no chimberly flue system to vent out doors or something stupid along those lines do you?

 

[AstonHill]

But that’s because you are an ignorant idiot.

Where’s that thread of yours gone about the £40 WiFi camera? The one you think you might need two phone lines to operate it? Last I remember you were getting all Randy about it as it was after last orders as far as I can remember…

oh so you think that it is now a now a crime against humanity to burn coal do you?