what are your views on this diy install ?
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Many of my previous postings have been in reply to an earlier posting so there is a zig zag chain.
Corgiman, CORGI have told me that if we come across an illegally fitted boiler we should advise them of the installers details. Anyone who has been born earlier than yesterday knows that illegals dont give their correct name or address. CORGI recommend that I do commission it to be sure its safe to use, better done than not!
I am in the lead of the anti illegal installers but I was very disappointed when I asked members of the Association about establishing a procedure for dealing with illegal installs. The replies I received showed there was no support for this because mostly they were afraid of reprisals from the illegals. I found that very disappointing.
10 months ago we were introduced to Phil Brewster of CORGI who had been appointed to spearhead the new CORGI actions against illegals. Few at the HQ have even heard of him so far!
As for RIDDOR, anyone who has done one of those knows that if the box "How many died" is marked "0" then there is likely to be zero or little investigation.
The one I did was for an illegal instal on a boiler which exploded and blew the installer up the stairs. Although all the details were available all the HSE did was just to write a letter to the landlord advising him to use a CORGi next time.
Tony
Corgiman, CORGI have told me that if we come across an illegally fitted boiler we should advise them of the installers details. Anyone who has been born earlier than yesterday knows that illegals dont give their correct name or address. CORGI recommend that I do commission it to be sure its safe to use, better done than not!
I am in the lead of the anti illegal installers but I was very disappointed when I asked members of the Association about establishing a procedure for dealing with illegal installs. The replies I received showed there was no support for this because mostly they were afraid of reprisals from the illegals. I found that very disappointing.
10 months ago we were introduced to Phil Brewster of CORGI who had been appointed to spearhead the new CORGI actions against illegals. Few at the HQ have even heard of him so far!
As for RIDDOR, anyone who has done one of those knows that if the box "How many died" is marked "0" then there is likely to be zero or little investigation.
The one I did was for an illegal instal on a boiler which exploded and blew the installer up the stairs. Although all the details were available all the HSE did was just to write a letter to the landlord advising him to use a CORGi next time.
Tony
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I agree but am shocked at the totally contradictory advice CORGI is giving out
to me RIDDOR it shut it down leave or re do all over again, You Ahh you may as well
Yet another example of CORGI big big Joke on us
But I still think you should leave those to be hoisted on their own petard, why should they get a cheap cheap job done by an unregistered (or themselves) install.
Honest people pay more and get a professional job done why should these people get an advantage because they have given you a sob story... Sod them
to me RIDDOR it shut it down leave or re do all over again, You Ahh you may as well
Yet another example of CORGI big big Joke on us
But I still think you should leave those to be hoisted on their own petard, why should they get a cheap cheap job done by an unregistered (or themselves) install.
Honest people pay more and get a professional job done why should these people get an advantage because they have given you a sob story... Sod them
gas4you said:Agile said:
Never had that box to fill in on my RIDDORSI've only ever issued 3 and all were followed up by HSE by return and perpetrators brought to book
I must have writting about 60 odd RIDDORS now of which followed up so I have to agree with Tony I hate it but the RIDDOR is all we have
With you on that on corgiman.
corgiman said:
Thats not usually the case. Most landlords are fully aware of what they are doing using an unqualified installer.
The worst case was an English Asian Doctor who had used an East European to fit a boiler for £150. It worked for all of two weeks ! When I suggested reporting him to CORGi he said he was frightened of reprisals. His body language indicated he wanted to use him for cheap work again.
Until CORGI team up with the HSE to use their extensive powers we have no hope. CORGI, for those who dont know, only investigate when called in by the property owner.
Tony
What a heap of b*llocks. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem, and by completing an installation that a shoddy builder has started you're supporting the builder's belief that she can continue doing it.Agile said:
Surely you can make the right decision without having CORGI decide for you? Especially as in this case they seem incapable of getting it right.
corgiman said:
I think you have misunderstood what I said.
The £180 is when I am called in at the beginning to co-ordinate the siting and installation. I carry out all the activities the CORGI is required to do and can legitimately then class the installation as my own.
By the way all this is hypothetical as its three years since I last did this. In London you can get the whole boiler installation by the East Europeans and still have change from £180.
Tony
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