What doesn't John D understand about this ?

[Roger928]

If and when Scotland decides to leave England and form a new alliance, what currency will I use? The currency of a foreign nation over which I have no control?

Would you see the EU as the foreign nation or England, if Scotland decided to leave the Union in a referendum?

 

[JohnD]

If England and Scotland are not in a Union, they are foreign countries, as are Mexico, Canada and Ukraine.

If one of both of them is in the EU or some other alliance, they are members of that union, and would doubtless have voting rights and representation on its ruling bodies.

 

[DRM]

Last time the Royal Bank went bust, the cost of the bailout was shared 65 million ways. Next time it might fall on the shoulders of only 5 million. Or maybe it will be shared out between 450 million. United we stand....

Just shows how weak they would be if they didn’t have us to bail them out.

That would be a big maybe!

BTW, how many of the 450 million are paying into the system?

 

[Roger928]

Is there a parallel between how the elites in Whitehall have alienated many of the people in Scotland and the elites in Brussels who have alienated many people in the UK?
And what is the solution?

For people in Scotland so far it seems to be a devolved government that can control its own affairs.
But still has access to the rest of the Uk's coffers!
Inward insular thinking? Or just clever?

I don't think the leaders in the eu would be as generous to an independent UK as leaders in Whitehall would be to an independent Scotland.

 

[blightymam]

If England and Scotland are not in a Union, they are foreign countries, as are Mexico, Canada and Ukraine.

Are England and Scotland (and Wales and N.Ireland) not different countries anyway? '-)

 

[blightymam]

Surely it wasn't up to "outists" to have a plan?
David Cameron called the referendum and as leader of the country surely he was the person who should have had a plan in place if the people voted "leave"?

Guess that's why he did a runner!

 

[DRM]

Surely it wasn't up to "outists" to have a plan?
David Cameron called the referendum and as leader of the country surely he was the person who should have had a plan in place if the people voted "leave"?

That's why I called him and George reckless at the time of the referendum.

 

[tony1851]

 

[securespark]

"I propose that we should demolish Big Ben and put up a fairground ride instead. I will not tell you if it should be a Ferris Wheel, or a Rollercoaster, or a Merry-go-Round...."

Can I vote for anything but a wheel? The eye is just over the river.

 

[JohnD]

No, the only choices on the voting slip are "keep Big Ben" and "Demolish Big Ben"

You might want a rollercoaster, and sewer might want a wheel, and perhaps I will promise both of you that you will get what you want. However I accept no responsibility for building anything, it's not my job. So you might end up with just a pile of rubble. You will then both be said to have "won."

I will also be telling the people of Cornwall and Wales that they will continue to receive the "not having Big Ben" subsidy, although I have no power to pay it, and I will be telling the people of Sunderland that their factory employing thousands of people making spare clock parts is safe, because some other big clock tower is sure to want to buy them.

If anyone says that they preferred Big Ben to a pile of rubble, or comments that the road is now blocked, you will have the pleasure of telling them they have no right to comment, because they "lost."

 

[Roger928]

If the eu got its way we might as well demolish big ben and the houses of parliament along with it and then you really would have a pile of rubble and would have more use as a pile of rubble.

 

[transam]

It should be us who dictate to the rest of Europe not them to us.

After all the U.K may well be the only country in Europe that has had a full democracy in , what the last 200 years ???????

look at the rest of em or the majority ??

Germany = Hitler
Italy = Mussolini
Greece = a military dictator until the 70's
Portugal = military dictator
Spain = Franco / dictator
Romania = cesecau
France - Vichy france collaborating with the krauts
most Eastern European countries were under the dictate of the Soviet Union

As for the rest what do they do or what are they for ? Belgium ?? Luxembourg ??

Sweden ? porno's may be ?

Swiss ?? cuckoo clocks & dodgy banking ?

 

[JohnD]

the U.K may well be the only country in Europe that has had a full democracy in , what the last 200 years

Ha ha, that's a funny one. Obviously you didn't intend to be taken seriously.

Just in case:

When do you think the UK introduced universal male suffrage?
(clue: the soldiers who fought in WW1 mostly didn't have votes).

And when do you think the vote was granted to all adult people unfortunate enough to lack a penis?

What year do you think the House of Lords became a democratically elected chamber?

 

[Himaginn]

Obviously there's going to be a lot less left over for spending on NHS:

EU funding for farmers, scientists and other projects will be replaced by the Treasury after Brexit, Chancellor Philip Hammond has said.

In a move which could cost up to £4.5bn a year, the Treasury will guarantee to back EU-funded projects signed before this year's Autumn Statement.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37060430

 

[Roger928]

Many UK farmers are overfunded by eu tax payers. I know wealthy dairy farmers with huge swathes of land who receive around £100k per year in subsidies. And their business makes a tidy profit without that payout.
Perhaps now the situation will be reviewed.

The leave campaigners said more money would be available for the nhs if we leave the eu.
I've no idea if that's true or not but to suggest that less will be available is conjecture.