what to ask for when having a full re-wire

[Taylortwocities]

Electricians have to requalify with 2382 and 2391 every five years

Are you sure about that?

 

[SparkyNinja]

Electricians have to requalify with 2382 and 2391 every five years

Are you sure about that?

I hope he's wrong, my 2391 is almost 10 years old

 

[riveralt]

Electricians have to requalify with 2382 and 2391 every five years..

do we?
I know we have to do the regs again when they make ammendments but I didn't know we had to re-take the I&T every 5 years..
who's bright idea at money making was that? surely as long as you keep your regs up to date, the testing and inspection doesn't change that much other than the figures and what to look for which would be covered by the regs update..

I believe it is a requirement for some of the competent persons schemes - well mine at least

 

[SparkyNinja]

Electricians have to requalify with 2382 and 2391 every five years..

do we?
I know we have to do the regs again when they make ammendments but I didn't know we had to re-take the I&T every 5 years..
who's bright idea at money making was that? surely as long as you keep your regs up to date, the testing and inspection doesn't change that much other than the figures and what to look for which would be covered by the regs update..

I believe it is a requirement for some of the competent persons schemes - well mine at least

Which scheme provider is this?

 

[riveralt]

Napit

 

[Taylortwocities]

You had better check your information again.

I am registered with NAPIT. The situation is that 5-year renewal of 2391 is no longer a requirement of normal full-scope membership (it used to be).
It is, however, an LABC requirement for their Approved Inspectors.

NAPIT will require you to retake 2391 if you demonstrate weakness in the I&T area during the annual grilling.
Did you trip up on stuff then, riveralt.

 

[riveralt]

You had better check your information again.

I am registered with NAPIT. The situation is that 5-year renewal of 2391 is no longer a requirement of normal full-scope membership (it used to be).
It is, however, an LABC requirement for their Approved Inspectors.

NAPIT will require you to retake 2391 if you demonstrate weakness in the I&T area during the annual grilling.
Did you trip up on stuff then, riveralt.

No - plenty of hot flushes and cold sweat though

Wonder what they mean when they say 'current' 2391 and 2382?

I will turn interrogator at the next grilling

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Wonder what they mean when they say 'current' 2391 and 2382?

It depends how much you resist.

 

[JohnnyG]

Wonder what they mean when they say 'current' 2391 and 2382?

At a guess it means you must hold the current version of those qualifications, not that you have to renew it at an arbitrary interval

 

[thomo27]

You should expect to pay whatever the electrician you eventually choose charges.

Seriously, there are so many variables that you are only going to start to make real progress if you start getting electricians in to look at the place and discuss what you want them to do.

As ever, personal recommendations are always the best way to find a reputable tradesman, but if you're having to go ahead without much in the way of those, or references, don't put any store by registration itself - sadly it is possible to become registered with woefully inadequate qualifications and zero practical experience. You don't have to spend long here to see people cropping up who are registered and "qualified", but who are clearly seriously incompetent in reality and who should not be charging for their services.

It's your money, £'000s of it, and you have every right to ask prospective tradesmen what their qualifications are. Just being listed here is not a good enough guide. No genuinely experienced electrician, with the "full set" of C&G qualifications will mind you asking - in fact he will wish that everyone was like you.

I feel sorry for people who have been misled by training organisations and (shamefully) the Competent Person scheme organisers into thinking that a 5-day training course, a couple of trivial examples of their work and some basic understanding of how to use test equipment will make them an electrician, but not sorry enough to agree with them trying to sell their services to Joe Public.

I dont think the training schemes that advertise these 5 day courses suggest you will become a qualified electrician, the only way to be a qualified electrician is to complete the NVQ Level 2356

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Well something puts the idea into the heads of all the people we see here asking how to do things that their customers think they know how to do.

 

[SparkyNinja]

I dont think the training schemes that advertise these 5 day courses suggest you will become a qualified electrician, the only way to be a qualified electrician is to complete the NVQ Level 2356

Who out there thinks the words ''This 17 day course includes all the training you'll need to be a fully qualified Domestic Electrical Installer'' does not mean electrician?

 

[ColJack]

an eleectrician is someone who can turn his hand to domestic, industrial and commercial installation with no problems and has an understanding of 3 phase and motors etc, whereas a domestic installer knows how to wire a house or flat and that's about it...

 

[SparkyNinja]

I know that, and you know that... we've put the hours in to prove it.



But our clients don't.

 

[1john]

17 day course, love it, i would like to see their approach to re-wiring a house filled with furniture that is occupied. How can these companies make such claims?