What is it they say about repeating the devil's name three times?
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What is it they say about repeating the devil's name three times?
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Perhaps he fell through the ceiling from the attic after plugging in a hoover.................
Or was it the wifes arc welder?
with the onset of old age I sometimes forget
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I know, lets say lots of things like "A fusebox can contain MCB's inesteed of wire fuses as that's what it is called in most home in the UK"...
Then see what appears
You have to repeat it three times quickly
Quite so -and exactly the same with 'light bulbs' and 'low voltage'I know, lets say lots of things like "A fusebox can contain MCB's inesteed of wire fuses as that's what it is called in most home in the UK"...
Then see what appears
Mind you, it's far from only "him" that will argue about those ones, insisting that it is tens of millions of the general public who are "incorrect"!
Kind Regards, John
No different than 'plugtops'.
I don't know about that one. Some of the historical material which has been posted here might suggest that (logical or not) "plugtop" may once have been (and hence, per your view, presumably still would be) the "correct" term, with terminology in more recent times being "incorrect"?
Kind Regards, John
I don't know where you got that idea. I think it a ludicrous term whatever the reason for it.
I mentioned it because I know you feel the same yet you defend similar mistakes that you consider less irritating.
I'll see if I can find the previously posted material.
Yes, I agree it's pretty ludicrous - just as I tend to regard it as pretty ludicrous (in terms of logic) to try to get the general public to regard 230V as 'low voltage'.
However, as I understand it (maybe I'm wrong), your criteria for regarding terminology/words as 'correct' does not depend on whether or not it is 'ludicrous' but, rather, whether or not it was regarded as 'correct' at some point in the past. Is that not correct?
Kind Regards, John
If the current situation is a permanent one, then I agree - and I'm attempting to find out whether that is the case
Kind Regards, John
I've seen other posts about plugtops, but my own digging is posted here:
Plug tops / Plug caps?
After some 'interesting' discussions on here (involving a certain party who will remain nameless!), about the usage of the words 'Plug Top' to describe a 13A plug; I decided to look into its origins (...and please forgive me if you have seen any of this before!). The only information I have...
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Yet more censorship
Nonsense. "Would of" is used daily. Just because we know what is meant is no reason to continue using it. Why not? It now appears in dictionaries.
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My interest was purely academic, trying to find why "plugtop" was a thing, and why a certain poster derided anyone who used the term, with such vitriol!
I'm still looking into the archives to find something more definitive....
Although, what we forget, is that 'plugs and sockets' were very late to the electrical party.
Before them (1890's -1910's), sockets were what people put light bulbs into; in telephony there were plugs and jacks; and in portable stage lighting, there were 'plugging boxes' and 'plug tips' - with both female and male connections.
What would you call your newly invented 'plug and socket', when you want to differentiate it from the other products, but not cause confusion?
I've found an interesting online book archive here (although peruse at your own risk!) :
Engineering_Electrical | Survivor Library
www.survivorlibrary.com
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So in this case,
where the chandelier has a plug and plugs into the ceiling rose, would that be a plug bottom?
where the chandelier has a plug and plugs into the ceiling rose, would that be a plug bottom?Yes, that was the historical material I was thinking of when I was replying to EFLI. Thanks for reminding me!
As I wrote at the time, you seem to have presented a reasonable argument for "plug cap" perhaps having been a 'correct' term in the US in the early 20th century, and I suppose it's possible that that somehow ended up as "plug top" over here. However, as I also said back then, it certainly never seemed to catch on with the UK general public, since I spent probably the first 50+ years of my life never having heard the term.
However, as we were told by more than one person in those old threads, it seems clear that some people were formally taught that "plug top" was correct, in colleges etc or apprenticeships, which supports my suspicion that the industry was (for some reason!) 'responsible' !!
Kind Regards, John
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