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Silly notch persistently typing nonsense

No change there.

And persistently lying

No change there.
 
The problem with that argument is that governments have been doing the same well before Brexit was thought of...

And they have never been 'held to account'!

Quitters unfortunately were led to believe that it was all the EU's fault, and yet even the slightest glimpse at provisions across the channel show that the UK is often at or near the bottom of any 'league table' when it comes to looking after the general population and those most in need...

Indeed also in most of the developed world, and some third world nations...

Percentage of average working wage paid by country as a state pension.

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This will of course change when we leave the EU according to the unicorns as they gather around their money tree :LOL:
So, how are we to read the graph Elly? Croatian's and Turkish people seem to retire on more than double the money they were earning before retirement. (wonder who's paying for that in their respective countries? )
 
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So, how are we to read the graph Elly? Croatian's and Turkish people seem to retire on more than double the money they were earning before retirement. (wonder who's paying for that in their respective countries? )
I noticed that, weird?
 
So, how are we to read the graph Elly?
Properly ?

Croatian's and Turkish people seem to retire on more than double the money they were earning before retirement. (wonder who's paying for that in their respective countries?
The graph does not show that.

Turkey is shown as just over 100% and Croatia 130%.

100% of average working wage is not double.


Still hard to know how they do it, though.
 
Not double, I wonder why its so high? Maybe not many reach retirement age....

I'm fact you could retire in Turkey at 45 not sure that is the case now.

Without looking at how much they contribute into their pensions and whether this is ringfenced its due to a multitude of factors.

Demographics will play a part.
 
"At the other end of the scale, pensioners in the United Kingdom suffer from the worst deal of any OECD country, receiving just 29% of a working wage when they retire. To put this into perspective, the OECD average is 63% and the average for EU member states is 71%."

Hurrah for the Tory government!

How much does that actually mean?

The Spanish are top of the pile in Europe, with the maximum state pension in Spain standing at £26,630. The UK is second bottom of the Euro league at £5,500, with the hapless Greeks propping up the table. While this looks bad on paper it has to be noted that many of the countries in Europe have earnings related pensions, including Spain, while the UK's isn't. Thanks to government reforms the British state pension is set to rise to almost £7,500 by 2016, and while this is an improvement it still leaves us trailing behind.

You also have to remember that you cannot isolate the state pension of single country and take the figures as cast in stone. How much tax is paid and what people get for those taxes is inextricably linked to pension entitlements. Another thing to consider is the average salary in those countries whose pensions are wage related. Another key issue is private pension savings and, like the Netherlands and Sweden, private pension plans in the UK boost the meagre state pension.
https://www.50connect.co.uk/blogs/how-does-the-uk-pension-measure-up-against-the-res
 
Thanks to government reforms the British state pension is set to rise to almost £7,500 by 2016

no it wasn't, and no it didn't. That is an aspirational amount that some people might get. We don't have a flat-rate pension and not many people get the £144 a week that propaganda such as yours made them think they would get. It was a government ploy to stop people moaning. By the time they find out the truth it's too late.

Anyone who retired prior to changeover still gets paid at the old rate, and will continue to do so until death. So do many who retired after; and many on the new scheme don't get the notional "flat rate" because it varies.

I'd have thought someone like Notch would have heard about all that at his day-centre.

How much do you get, notch?
 
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