Why does it take so long to clear Motorway incidents?

motorbiking said:
quality of emergency services and hospitals increasing servivability
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ignorance of well meaning people who are first on scene ( before the emergency services ) contributes to the number of fatalities. The German driving licence test includes knowledge of First Aid and the basics of making safe at the scene of an accident.
 
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motorbiking said:
Yes - Accidents per bvkm is generally accepted to be better, but it still goes nowhere near defining an accurate comparison.
- weather conditions in different countries
- distribution of population
- quality of roads
- standard of driver training and corrupt driving testing practices
- quality of emergency services and hospitals increasing servivability
- age and standard of maintenance of vehicles. e.g. number of cars with brake assist.
- type of vehicles used - motorbikes and scooters vs big volvos

etc.

Its vastly more complex than the speed kills, something must be done organisations would have you believe
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Yes.

While excessive speed for the prevailing conditions is a factor, it is not the be-all and end-all of road safety.
It is however, both simple to enforce and collect monies from, and a cheap way of "demonstrating" that a government is "taking positive steps to make everyone safer"......
Governments like that sort of thing: a soundbite that is revenue-positive.
 
Brigadier said:
Yes.

While excessive speed for the prevailing conditions is a factor, it is not the be-all and end-all of road safety.
It is however, both simple to enforce and collect monies from, and a cheap way of "demonstrating" that a government is "taking positive steps to make everyone safer"......
Governments like that sort of thing: a soundbite that is revenue-positive.
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Your theory is based upon the fact that we, as voters all know this.

So why haven't we rebelled? Why do we keep putting up with the nonsense?
 
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Dork Lard said:
Not one of you moaners & whingers will be able to come up with a valid reason as to why you speed, why you feel the need to speed or why everyone else shouldn't speed but you can.

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Brigadier said:
Please supply your definition of "speeding" then.


Presuming it is something along the lines of "going faster than the indicated speed limit"....

Here's one for ya.....

M1 "smart" motorway.
Derby to Barnsley stretch, 4 lanes, with next to sod all on it: nothing at all in outside two lanes, for long stretches.
Concrete central reservations.
Bright, dry, sunny mornings.
So, why are the matrix signs set to 60 or 50, for over 35 miles?
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No response then, DL?

here's another daft one I've witnessed today.

M6 south, staffs.
4 lane "smart" motorway.
Light traffic.

A couple of miles of 40mph restrictions on the gantries, due to a lane 1 (formerly, the hard shoulder) closure, for a stranded vehicle (which, incidentally, was actually off the carriageway entirely, parked up on the grass).

If you can still travel at 70mph on a non-smart motorway when a vehicle is occupying the hard shoulder, why the need to be slowed to 40 on a camera-laden "smart" stretch, in materially the very same circumstances?

(The flashes were going off like Oscar Night, so bad luck to those who can't read / won't believe the matrix signs!)
 
If you're mad about motorway hold-ups, try driving the M60 around Manchester; roadworks now going on over two years and yet not a workman in site when you drive slowly through them.
One wonders if the 'improvements' (when they arrive) will be worth the enormous cost of delays to the local economy.
Northern Powerhouse my ar$e.
 
tony1851 said:
If you're mad about motorway hold-ups, try driving the M60 around Manchester; roadworks now going on over two years and yet not a workman in site when you drive slowly through them.
One wonders if the 'improvements' (when they arrive) will be worth the enormous cost of delays to the local economy.
Northern Powerhouse my ar$e.
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Was on it yesterday - 1 hr delay, closed 2 lanes down. Accident was a car into the barrier.

It's a perfect storm. Trains are expensive and only for people who commute to city centres. People are travelling further to work as its harder to move home and more are in less secure employment. On top we have cuts to public services and the work being contracted out to the lowest bid so that means that the work will last longer than it should.

I cannot see this situation improving - its created politically.
 
EFLImpudence said:
Aaaarrrggghhhh!

Perhaps later they will reopen the two lanes back up.
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When the Police are short staffed like the Ambulance service and have to fight through miles of standing traffic to get to the incident then finding out that if they had enough officers one could manage the traffic whilst the others attend the incident.

Its a cost passed onto motorists- short sighted policies.
 
I was commenting on and responding to your poor grammar.

Employing the BBC motoring report technique of the (seemingly mandatory) unnecessary pronoun as far from the verb as possible.
 
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