But that's the same type that was removed and it was working. If I put the same type of box back, wont it work?
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But that's the same type that was removed and it was working. If I put the same type of box back, wont it work?
JH
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It might.
It might not.
It might be the correct (older) type.
Or not.
One thing is certain - shoving wires into it with the wrong tool will cause damage. The cheap plastic shove and hope tools rarely work properly or more than once, and the correct tool will cost the same as a new socket which doesn't need any tools.
The master socket is the property of Openreach, and you are not supposed to remove it.
As it's already been ripped off the wall by some plastering buffoon, there are two options.
The proper official option is to have them replace it for £150+ and probably send the bill to the plasterer.
Or buy the correct one for £10 and fit it before they notice.
The wires need to be punched into the IDC terminals with a significant amount of force - which is why the plastic tools are hopeless.
The proper tool has spring loaded metal jaws.
Dropwire does not normally connect to a socket. The cores are too big for insulation displacement terminals connect to. There is usually a junction box first.
But if it is the master socket it is the property of Open Reach and neither you nor your plasterer should touch it.
The cores are 0.5mm diameter copper, the same size as internal wiring.
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You could use any socket there is a risk that old phones won’t ring.
Orange and white usually used.
I thought modern master sockets have gone to IDC for AB but maybe changed again for later ones!
Orange and white usually used.
I thought modern master sockets have gone to IDC for AB but maybe changed again for later ones!
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Yes it is.
No it isn't, the normal pair to use is orange and white. You can see in the first picture that they are shorter than green and black, therefore they have been connected in the past with a proper Krone tool.
Yes it does.
No they aren't.
No there isn't. That's rare nowadays. What if it was a BT77A block terminal? That disproves the previous point!
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winston1 said:
rsgaz said:
Some drop wire conductors do not make good reliable connection with the IDC and the use of jelly crimps to CW1308 for IDC or a Master with screw terminals os reccomended
The Master socket has a capacitor ( bell capacitor) that some telephones use in the bell circuit. Without that capacitor the bell in some telephones cannot ring.
The Master socket also has an "out of service resistor" which together with the bell capacitor is used as part of the line testing procedure when OpenReach do line tests.
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Why, thank you.
Neither, don't connect the incoming line to 2 & 5. Connect white to A and orange to B.
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2 and 5 is correct. But which way round? Don't say it doesn't matter, there is a correct way.
Why not just say what is the correct way if you’re so well informed?
Judging by the rest of your posts in this thread, and the majority of your posts in general, you haven’t got the first clue what you’re talking about, but I’m sure you won’t let that stop you trying to act like mr superior.
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