wiring new ceiling light

[tamwinsle]

Big problem ....

I am finally getting round to finishing off a room that we've been decorating for the last few months. The old ceiling rose was removed to replaster parts of the ceiling and now I've come to wire in a new ceiling light, my method of identifying which flexes are which are no longer clear, so long story short, I've no idea which wires to reconnect to which parts of the ceiling rose.

I have looked at the WIKI but can't see anything that relates to what I have.
I have four flexes, three are sheathed in white plastic and one in grey. The one in grey plastic has two red wires and one earth, and the others have the normals L/N/E.

The new light I am trying to attach has two wires (uncoloured) connecting into a choc box and an earth screw connection. It a simple single switch that I am connecting, not a dimmer.

I have attached a picture of my predicament, do any lovely forum members have a solution, please?

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• tamwinsle
• 20 Mar 2010
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• tamwinsle
• 20 Mar 2010
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[RF Lighting]

Is this the only light in the room?

 

[sparky0000]

 

[tamwinsle]

yes it is the only light in the room...

 

[RF Lighting]

It's twin red, so there is no black switched line.

First of all we need to find out whether the extra T&E is a feed or a switched line and neutral, hence my question above.

Naughty sparky0000, editing your post like that

 

[sparky0000]

only seen 3 cables at first

 

[tamwinsle]

First of all we need to find out whether the extra T&E is a feed or a switched line and neutral, hence my question above.

absolutely, that's what I thought - so sorry RF, you've lost me!

 

[sparky0000]

or is the single red a borrowed live rf

 

[tamwinsle]

There isn't a single red, there are two reds coming out of the grey cable, despite appearances in the pic!

 

[LoveRocket]

The T+E with two reds should be your switch cable. (Take the switch plate off and check though - there's no point assuming for the sake of two minutes' work.

One of the other T+E will be the power feed in - if you're confident to do this safely, have someone put the power on whilst you carefully check for 240v volts on the cables.

So, now you have your switch cable and power feed in (loop in)

It's possible that both the remaining cables are feeds to other lights (loop out), but you really should confirm where these go. If you can be sure that these do go to other lights (They must do, what do the sparks on here think?) the you can wire it as per the wiki, but with two 'loop out' cables.

 

[sparky0000]

sorry only seen 1

 

[RF Lighting]

There isn't a single red. Stop tying to confuse the OP

You need to wire your ceiling rose as per the diagram above.

The wire which goes to the switch in the diagram (red & black sleeved red) is the cable with two red cores in your photo. It does not matter which way round you connect these.

Once you have connected as per the diagram, you will be left with one red and black cable. You should connect the black with the other blacks, and the red to the centre loop terminal.

There will not be enough holes for all the wires, but you can just fit two wires into one hole.

 

[sparky0000]

like rf said but you may find that when you connect the twin red cable in you may find that your light switch is the oppersit way when switching

 

[RF Lighting]

like rf said but you may find that when you connect the twin red cable in you may find that your light switch is the oppersit way when switching

Do you actually understand how electrical circuits work?

Why don't you stop posting stuff that is incorrect and does nothing but confuse the OP?

 

[sparky0000]

rf if you get the switch wire wrong the switch will opperate vice versa fact i think you need a women in your life