Trump Air Crash Press Conference

Do you suspect them of lying that a plane and a helicopter crashed?

No, I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just asking questions. But it seems to me that for four years under Biden there were no fatal air crashes between civilian airliners and military helicopters. And now, less than a fortnight after Trump came to power, this happens. Are you really expecting me to believe that this is a coincidence?
 
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But the point is

He did read out a section of the policy document ;)
And that policy document doesn't say that unsuitable or unqualified people will be doing the work.

The reason for DEI is mostly to get capable qualified people who get excluded because of racism, sexism or discrimination. Because the evidence shows they do better than Straight White Males with the same scores.
 
It's sickening that he is actually trying to score political points out of this, before any investigation has begun.

It's worse than sickening that some lap it up.

Get a grip ffs

Some Uk politicians accused the serving PM in the UK if being a murderer

Dare say you were sickened by that ( not)
 
And that policy document doesn't say that unsuitable or unqualified people will be doing the work.

The reason for DEI is mostly to get capable qualified people who get excluded because of racism, sexism or discrimination. Because the evidence shows they do better than Straight White Males with the same scores.

But he just read it out

Tis you who now wants to play the race card ???

And homo phobic card ??

No surprise tbh
 
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No, I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just asking questions. But it seems to be me that for four years under Biden there were no fatal air crashes between civilian airliners and military helicopters. And now, less than a fortnight after Trump came to power, this happens. Are you really expecting me to believe that this is a coincidence?
Or course it is. This is a known danger area which only recently had increased traffic approved.

In 2023 around 8 US helicopters and 7 aircraft crashed. 4 of the helicopters were through mid air collisions.
 
But he just read it out

Tis you who now wants to play the race card ???

And homo phobic card ??

No surprise tbh
What are you dribbling about. He's blaming DEI before we know what happened. It's so simple even you can understand what thats not what you should do.
 
What are you dribbling about. He's blaming DEI before we know what happened. It's so simple even you can understand what thats not what you should do.
What are you dribbling on about :giggle:

I merely pointed out that he read a page from a policy document

Get a bib :giggle:
 
Or course it is. This is a known danger area which only recently had increased traffic approved.

In 2023 around 8 US helicopters and 7 aircraft crashed. 4 of the helicopters were through mid air collisions.

Well, I think before we have any investigation, the public deserve to know the truth. Otherwise it is going to look like a massive cover up.
 
Get a grip ffs

Some Uk politicians accused the serving PM in the UK if being a murderer

Dare say you were sickened by that ( not)
Do you not have enough respect for the dead to allow an investigation to take place before trying to score political points?
 
He could have read from the McDonalds menu. It may be just as relevant.

I doubt it

“Well Mr Minion we have employed some one under the diversity scheme he is going to carry out yer prostrate examination tis alright he has a mental issue but we gave him some training and he has an instruction manual so bend over and touch yer toes it will be a good crack for him “


:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Some interesting comments on a professional pilots forum.


The whole USA aviation sector needs root and branch reform, there have been so many near misses in recent years that this accident was inevitable, it was just a question of when.

The majority of people inside the system don’t realise how bad it is because it’s all they’ve ever known. We have American contributors here who routinely tell us it’s ok to switch to TA only to avoid “nuisance” RA’s, who will not follow an RA as they have the traffic in sight, who will accept visual separation at night (day is bad enough) or very late visual switches, who think LAHSO is a good idea. USA ATC think it’s acceptable to “slam dunk” a heavy jet, get shirty when foreign operators refuse a questionable clearance, literally forget about an aircraft once it has accepted visual separation. The system allows uncontrolled VFR traffic within 500ft of commercial operations which is madness.

I operated the 747-400 around the planet for over a decade, the USA was one of the most threat laden environments we went to. Lovely people, just insane procedures. In that time I experienced a TCAS RA on vectors to JFK, was sent around and put in the hold as punishment on short final in Miami for refusing LAHSO, had multiple super high workload approaches to SFO combined with the crazy policy of pairing aircraft on approach. I witnessed a Singapore aircraft being refused a diversion to Boston from JFK fifteen minutes after they stated what time they would be leaving the hold and where they would be going resulting in a fuel mayday and an unplanned diversion to a regional airport. I lost count of the times I was chastised for refusing a visual approach and visual separation in congested airspace or a very late visual switch.

On most of the planet the human is the last line of defence in a multi layered safety environment. In the USA the human is often the only line of defence, while the environment they are in is super high workload significantly reducing their capacity to trap safety issues.

Unless there is a marked attitude shift in all parties involved in aviation in the USA this will happen again, potentially quite soon.

Stay safe out there
 
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