£169k per Asylum Seeker

[JohnD]

In the black economy?

They are not allowed to work. So no tax, no NI, no contribution to society.

But Cruella loves the idea of treating them badly even if it costs us more.

 

[Mottie]

But Cruella loves the idea of treating them badly even if it costs us more.

Who told you that?

 

[IT Minion]

My brain. Have you questioned the OP on his figures too or are you accepting government figures without question nowdays?

The current government has been bad about accuracy but these numbers do look genuine, if misleadingly optimistic for their goals.

 

[Mottie]

They’ll look genuine to anyone that wants them to look genuine, that’s for sure.

 

[gant]

They are not allowed to work. So no tax, no NI, no contribution to society.

It doesn't escape the fact that they do work in the black economy therefore paying no tax no NI so no positive contribution to society.

 

[IT Minion]

They’ll look genuine to anyone that wants them to look genuine, that’s for sure.

lying to parliament is a serious thing. As we've seen.

 

[JohnD]

It doesn't escape the fact that they do work in the black economy therefore paying no tax no NI so no positive contribution to society.

It would be very much better if we permitted them to act legally.

 

[Mottie]

So if the illegals are allowed to work, that would be taking a job from those that are here legally, wouldn’t it. Hardly be worth those applying for asylum in that case, is it?

 

[JP_]

so no positive contribution to society.

not entirely true, as they need to spend money on things and that puts money back into the economy from businesses.

 

[JohnD]

allowed to work,

If refugees were allowed to act legally, they would be allowed to pay tax and NI, and this would weaken the black economy.

Not what you want?

 

[festive]

Since when does it cost £22k to escort and fly one individual back. Perhaps if a Tory friend has been given the contract to escort and fly them it may cost back this much. But in reality nowhere near this.

 

[gant]

not entirely true, as they need to spend money on things and that puts money back into the economy from businesses.

So your happy for them to break the law as long as they spend money and deny a legal worker on the dole a job.

 

[denso13]

Since when does it cost £22k to escort and fly one individual back

"Flight and escorting costs include all costs associated with the moving of individuals during their processing, and to a third country. This includes their removal flight as well as the contract forresource to monitor and transport individuals from detention to any legal court sittings, from detention to the flight for removal, and onboard the flight to the recipient safe third country. Costs have been calculated on a per person basis, assuming a flight can seat 50 individuals to be relocated. This is an uncertain assumption and there remains a risk that, in practice, flights may depart with fewer individuals onboard. Scenarios whereby on average there are 25 individuals and 75 individuals on a flight have been tested in the sensitivity analysis. Costs have been calculated assuming that each individual will take three in-country journeys, each requiring one escort, and one removal flight,requiring three escort personnel. The estimated flight and escorting costs are £22,000 (excluding optimism bias) per individual which is an additional cost to government, with the service provided by private business."

 

[JohnD]

So your happy for them to break the law as long as they spend money and deny a legal worker on the dole a job.

Far better if they were allowed to work legally and pay tax and NI.

Not what you want?

 

[gant]

Far better if they were allowed to work legally and pay tax and NI.

Not what you want?

Your just creating a pull factor if they can work in the black economy or make them 'legal' to work regardless of their status as genuine asylum seekers.