Just heard 100th british soldier was killed in Iraq. The other day I read they were looking to send another 3,500 troops out there. When will it ever end?
100th soldier dies
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I don't think he listens.
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a beautiful thing to behold.masona said:
100 of our lads are gone and you blame blair dont u mean we should blame the ones leading the lads LIONS LED BY DONKEYS
wtf r u lot on
we should never have set foot on iraq until we had used either nerve gas or carPet bombed it into the sea
OIL is the reason blair knows it we have to go there but how we do it should not let one of our lads die
if that means 2 miles no go zones near the oil and let the iraqis get on with there internal skirmishes then so be it
genocide would be a good practice if we lose men i want to see payback
ITS NOT TOO LATE
wtf r u lot on
we should never have set foot on iraq until we had used either nerve gas or carPet bombed it into the sea
OIL is the reason blair knows it we have to go there but how we do it should not let one of our lads die
if that means 2 miles no go zones near the oil and let the iraqis get on with there internal skirmishes then so be it
genocide would be a good practice if we lose men i want to see payback
ITS NOT TOO LATE
Actually, I don't think the Iraq war was anything to do with oil either, but an attempt by the US to restore its pride after 9/11. It had tried to capture the guilty and failed so it decided to punish a national bogeyman, even though he was completely unconnected, to make everyone feel good about themselves again. A good analogy would have been after the Soham murders, if they hadn't been able to catch Ian Huntley, to put the word about that Myra Hindley must have had a hand in it and hang her for it instead - All the tabloids get to say how good it is, and no-one should object, or at least that would've been George's theory.......
As for why Blair went along with it so willingly, I can only put it down to what I said above - the mere fact that the POTUSA would go out of his way to say how special a freind he was turned his head to such a degree that he was no longer capable of rational thought.
As for why Blair went along with it so willingly, I can only put it down to what I said above - the mere fact that the POTUSA would go out of his way to say how special a freind he was turned his head to such a degree that he was no longer capable of rational thought.
Nope, I blame Blair as he did not have the full supports of the UN nations and Iraq was not a threat to the UK, more people are now killed since the war ended, what's the point?Slogger said:
All this about 45 mins and WWD was a lies.
Blair has also heightened the threat of terrorist attacks in Britain.
M
Moz
the Iraq Invasion was about how Iraq sold the oil NOT about getting it ..
I have read many things ...about this ...
here is a brief rundown on it ,even USA Govt have agreed this was one reason that they went into Saddams regime to change it
the US is Funded by the Petro $,
the U$ is a world superpower due to the P/$ ,everything in America is supported by the P/$, if that dried up ,the US would be in a Massisive Depression an poorer than a THIRD WORD COUNTRY..
Saddam threatened to stop Selling Barrels of Iraq Oil in $ an sell in the EURO ....this was fully documented at the time as the US were in talks with Opec ..
the US had to go into Iraq to stop this as the P/$ pays for the vast US MILITARY BUDGET ....
this story about WMD was a smokescreen for the US Invasion /Bliar agreed as GB owes the US vast ammonts of debt since WW2 ..
the EU didnt want to help/support the US In those Un meetings on a war/invasion of Saddams Iraq ,as the new revenue from the Petro sales would be huge ...an many over middle east /opec members had said if Saddam could get at the time
32 euros for a barrel of crude oil
compared too the $ price
16 $ for a barrel of crude oil
they would ditch the $ selling price ...
this scared all of the uS Govt so much ..they went to war an kept the oil sales in the $
btw ...... the yanks did this same trick in Afghanistan , when the regime leaders then the Taliban also threatened to sell their oil by the Euro
if you think all this is t'internet rubbish ,
Which country is the third biggest exporter of oil ,an 3 years ago pledged to sell their oil by the euro in the year 2006, an just become the New AXIS OF EVIL for the US GOVT ?
yep you guessed it ... IRAN..
we shall see so much spin/bullshit about how EVIL Iran is this year , an as the US builds up its forces in Iraq , they will hop over to Iran an another Regime change for the P/$ to continue ...
if you think this is Bull Sh*t, mark this post well when our troops are sent to another phoney Illegal war for the US /$ THIS YEAR =FACT
3000 Uk troops are already being deployed in Afghanistan , for training /operations in the boro-boro mountain regions ,
btw the Saudis are pondering about their oil sales an were ready in ditching the $ for euro sales before saddam was toppled but as the US Military are entrenched there in S/Arabia they are having second thoughts now ...lol
all this info is in the broad sheets weekly regarding the Petro/$ an the US Interests in the Middle East
I have read many things ...about this ...
here is a brief rundown on it ,even USA Govt have agreed this was one reason that they went into Saddams regime to change it
the US is Funded by the Petro $,
the U$ is a world superpower due to the P/$ ,everything in America is supported by the P/$, if that dried up ,the US would be in a Massisive Depression an poorer than a THIRD WORD COUNTRY..
Saddam threatened to stop Selling Barrels of Iraq Oil in $ an sell in the EURO ....this was fully documented at the time as the US were in talks with Opec ..
the US had to go into Iraq to stop this as the P/$ pays for the vast US MILITARY BUDGET ....
this story about WMD was a smokescreen for the US Invasion /Bliar agreed as GB owes the US vast ammonts of debt since WW2 ..
the EU didnt want to help/support the US In those Un meetings on a war/invasion of Saddams Iraq ,as the new revenue from the Petro sales would be huge ...an many over middle east /opec members had said if Saddam could get at the time
32 euros for a barrel of crude oil
compared too the $ price
16 $ for a barrel of crude oil
they would ditch the $ selling price ...
this scared all of the uS Govt so much ..they went to war an kept the oil sales in the $
btw ...... the yanks did this same trick in Afghanistan , when the regime leaders then the Taliban also threatened to sell their oil by the Euro
if you think all this is t'internet rubbish ,
Which country is the third biggest exporter of oil ,an 3 years ago pledged to sell their oil by the euro in the year 2006, an just become the New AXIS OF EVIL for the US GOVT ?
yep you guessed it ... IRAN..
we shall see so much spin/bullshit about how EVIL Iran is this year , an as the US builds up its forces in Iraq , they will hop over to Iran an another Regime change for the P/$ to continue ...
if you think this is Bull Sh*t, mark this post well when our troops are sent to another phoney Illegal war for the US /$ THIS YEAR =FACT
3000 Uk troops are already being deployed in Afghanistan , for training /operations in the boro-boro mountain regions ,
btw the Saudis are pondering about their oil sales an were ready in ditching the $ for euro sales before saddam was toppled but as the US Military are entrenched there in S/Arabia they are having second thoughts now ...lol
all this info is in the broad sheets weekly regarding the Petro/$ an the US Interests in the Middle East
C
confidentincompetent
Feel for the guys who will come back some broken in body and spirit, will they be snubbed like the previous iraq vet's who are suffering from the effects of wrong innoculations, chemical exposure from explosives etc. But the Goverment refuse to admit anything amiss. Will they go the way of ww2 veterans where most of the younger generation can't wait to see the last of them gone so they wont need a remmeberance sunday anymore. How fking Gauling it must be to go though all that **** then be treated like a nusiance by pin stripes and chattering classes.
Very sad losses. Truly feel sorry for them and their families.
Remember watching John Major on Frost before the war saying that winning the war was not the worry, it was the aftermath...I even think he used the word armageddon. Many other reasonable voices who are not just anti-war per se held similar reservations about the way the UK went about things.
I think Blair was thinking of his place in history and maybe as JohnnyT says was awestruck by President of USA. Instead of blindly supporting Bush, he could've used his influence to rein US in. Why didn't they put all those resources into hunting down, to use Bush-speak, Bin Laden and his deputies instead?
This was and is a war for the hearts and minds of people, which US and UK have failed to address well. Even Ayman Al Zawahiri, Bin Laden's deputy, is supposed to have sent a message to Zachari, the leader of the major Iraqi insurgents, concerning the hostages taken that the fight is for the hearts and minds of the people.
I fear this conflict will just become more bogged down. Now it is more difficult to unravel and it does look like another Vietnam-like situation. It will not be those pulling the strings who suffer most, as usual.
Guantanamo Bay epitomises US attitude which is fueling so much hatred and understandably so.
Amazed then at Blair going to send thousands of troops to Afghanistan - that's potentially an even worse place to be for them, as far as I see, if there could be one! People in that region are relatively lawless and trigger-happy and many there and across the border in Pakistan will easily be brainwashed against the British. Its not good!
The two present administrations bear a heavy responsibility.
Remember watching John Major on Frost before the war saying that winning the war was not the worry, it was the aftermath...I even think he used the word armageddon. Many other reasonable voices who are not just anti-war per se held similar reservations about the way the UK went about things.
I think Blair was thinking of his place in history and maybe as JohnnyT says was awestruck by President of USA. Instead of blindly supporting Bush, he could've used his influence to rein US in. Why didn't they put all those resources into hunting down, to use Bush-speak, Bin Laden and his deputies instead?
This was and is a war for the hearts and minds of people, which US and UK have failed to address well. Even Ayman Al Zawahiri, Bin Laden's deputy, is supposed to have sent a message to Zachari, the leader of the major Iraqi insurgents, concerning the hostages taken that the fight is for the hearts and minds of the people.
I fear this conflict will just become more bogged down. Now it is more difficult to unravel and it does look like another Vietnam-like situation. It will not be those pulling the strings who suffer most, as usual.
Guantanamo Bay epitomises US attitude which is fueling so much hatred and understandably so.
Amazed then at Blair going to send thousands of troops to Afghanistan - that's potentially an even worse place to be for them, as far as I see, if there could be one! People in that region are relatively lawless and trigger-happy and many there and across the border in Pakistan will easily be brainwashed against the British. Its not good!
The two present administrations bear a heavy responsibility.
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