200 Schools considering cutting hours to save money

[noseall]

So where do after school clubs take place if the school is shut at 3.30pm ?

Dunno. Why?

 

[SirGalahad]

They managed before, so if they had 29 kids they could cope now? Some state school heads are on 6 figure salaries, not just academies. A typical response from a loony left apologist.

When did they manage before, or is this more rubbish pulled from your rear. You just make up stuff to go along.

If having large class sizes doesnr affect teaching why is it Private Schools keep smaller class sizss around 20 per pupil?

List these state schools, then list the percentage on over 6 figures then contrast it Acadsmies.

You live in a warped world.

 

[SirGalahad]

They managed before, so if they had 29 kids they could cope now? Some state school heads are on 6 figure salaries, not just academies. A typical response from a loony left apologist.

When did they manage before, or is this more rubbish pulled from your rear. You just make up stuff to go along.

If having large class sizes doesnr affect teaching why is it Private Schools keep smaller class sizss around 20 per pupil?

List these state schools, then list the percentage on over 6 figures then contrast it Acadsmies.

You live in a warped world.

 

[SirGalahad]

Dunno. Why?

The RWR on here are so bitter and morally bankrupt they blame the schools for the cuts, dismiss private Academies siphoning off money because in their world those suffering are lefties.

 

[SirGalahad]

What's RWR ? RIGHT WING ranker?




Buffoon how do you think all companies profiteer in all industrries In the UK. They say It's good we have immigrants from all of Europe and beyond which translate it's good because we pay them a lower wage than UK employees and pocket the profit. The government can support the rest who are under paid and unable to afford living in the uk. Who cops the bill. In turn resident uk workers are offered lower salaries it's a downward spiral. Look at the NHS for example.

This is happening in my industry also from all angles in fact.

Sorry what.. but if you cant afford multiple kids don't have them what gives you the right to feel it's right for me to pay for these people who haven't studied and worked for 30 years solid to earn a decent wage why should I pay for their 4 kids plus when I can only afford X and budget as such.
How old are you? Obviously wet behind the ears still. Get in the real world boy.

Whatever next you'll be claiming women aren't allowed abortions due to human rights. Ok I need to leave this place to catch up with real world intelligence.. have a nice evening everyone time for beer garden and undo all my weeks good living.

You sound very Marxist with that approach because he highlighted like you have the conundrum at the heart capitalism.
Workers vs owners of capital.

So you are against companies from profiting? You sound very socialist. Or is it you object when its exploiting cheap labour but then as a RW that means regulations which you are against - what is it again, yeah Free Markets.

So the NHS is an example of organisation exploiting low cost labour? In the same breath RW on here moan about highly paid NHS staff. You lot tie yourselves up in knots.

What is your industry?

So you dont like legal competition? I thought the correct response should be find a new job, thats free market capitalism. So why dont you change Industry / job?

Finally the RWR kids argument another circular RW argument. RW want more uk born people to work, so uk born parents need to have kids. But they cant afford to have kids witjout Gov help. But then Gov help is welfare which RW abhore. So now we need people to replace retiring workers, bring in new skills but we dont have enough uk born people so what do we do? We bring in foreigners but wait on RW hate them the most.

RW government in eastern Europe like Hungary have addressed this problem by offering more free childcare and state support for increasing the birth rate.

A RW is the easiest con.

 

[Mottie]

My students are one to one and are always accompanied by their tutor. Just recently I have been getting students that are two to one - two tutors, one student! My maximum class size is two so there are often twice as many tutors on the premises than there are students! There seems to be no shortage of funding for that category of student.

 

[Ihavenojob]

When did they manage before

When I was at school, back in the 70's classes were well over 25, possibly closer to 30. The thing is, when does it come unmanageable for a teacher, 28,29? because there is not a lot of difference between 29 & 30. Why not just take away the extra children and make another class ? If you have 29 classes with 30 pupils, each class having to have an assistant, that's 29 extra employees, just take one pupil from each class to make another class of 29, get rid of the assistants and get 1 more teacher, or do you think they will struggle with 29, and if so, how many is manageable, 15,20, 5 ?

 

[noseall]

how many is manageable

15

 

[Ihavenojob]

List these state schools, then list the percentage on over 6 figures then contrast it Acadsmies.

I am not concerned about percentages, I just stated the FACT that state school heads are on 6 figure salaries, as for a list, well I doub't that without a freedom of information request that one will be available, but numerous articles state the fact.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educati...ead-teachers-earning-six-figure-salaries.html
https://www.teachingtimes.com/articles/heads-salaries.htm
Theses are old figures, so more will be over £100k

You live in a warped world.

No, a real world.

 

[Ihavenojob]

15

Genuine question here, how many kids were in your classes at school, and would you, or any of your peers have disrespected the teacher in any way ?

 

[noseall]

Genuine question here, how many kids were in your classes at school, and would you, or any of your peers have disrespected the teacher in any way ?

Low 20's

Yes.

 

[Mottie]

Genuine question here, how many kids were in your classes at school, and would you, or any of your peers have disrespected the teacher in any way ?

I think our class size was 28. In my day, if I or any of my peers had disrespected a teacher, I'm pretty sure we would have had our ****ing heads knocked off of our shoulders if not by the teacher, certainly by our parents.

 

[Notch7]

When I was at school, back in the 70's classes were well over 25, possibly closer to 30. The thing is, when does it come unmanageable for a teacher, 28,29? because there is not a lot of difference between 29 & 30. Why not just take away the extra children and make another class ? If you have 29 classes with 30 pupils, each class having to have an assistant, that's 29 extra employees, just take one pupil from each class to make another class of 29, get rid of the assistants and get 1 more teacher, or do you think they will struggle with 29, and if so, how many is manageable, 15,20, 5 ?

Your analysis forgets that mainstream schools now routinely take pupils with learning, physical and behavourial difficulties. But like all things with austerity they dont get the extra funding.

Also teachers are seen as the route to give children education on such things as LGBT, terrorism etc etc.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Also teachers are seen as the route to give children education on such things as LGBT, terrorism etc etc.

They are also seen as a source of cheap replacement labour for minor school maintenance/cleaning jobs.

 

[ellal]

No. They are taken back when the session finishes. Just the same as school really.

So given that you said, and I quote: "When I close up, they go home and NOBODY can make me keep students past my closing time."

If the people taking them home are late, you still kick them out if it is after your 'closing time'?

Or do you keep them there until the people picking them up arrive?

Edit: just seen your later post...

My students are one to one and are always accompanied by their tutor. Just recently I have been getting students that are two to one - two tutors, one student! My maximum class size is two so there are often twice as many tutors on the premises than there are students! There seems to be no shortage of funding for that category of student.

So nothing like school at all, as you previously claimed

As well as the fact that you are talking about a one or two students, not hundreds or thousands!

They are taken back when the session finishes. Just the same as school really.