4 port USB 2 hub

To reply to monkehs bizarre reports.

A hub - by definition is a port expander.

MY devices AREN'T high powered. [email protected] an underpowered PSU won't power them. The computer itself asks for a high power USB connection,.

USB double DIN IS a standard, otherwise it wouldn't be widely used worldwide, by Walmart for example, research your facts.

Again..learn the info..you know nothing of double DIN USB, and quote misleading information.
 
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MY devices AREN'T high powered. [email protected] an underpowered PSU won't power them. The computer itself asks for a high power USB connection,.

Why would the computer ask for the power? It PROVIDES it. In USB 2.0, a device can ask for up to five units, for 500mA. This is a mere 2.5W. Any root hub (the ports on your computer, seeing as you know nothing else about USB, I thought I'd define that for you) can easily supply that. It's nothing. A bus-powered (that is, powered by the computer, not by its own power supply) hub can supply only one unit (100mA) to each port, which is why your devices ask for a self-powered hub.

USB double DIN IS a standard, otherwise it wouldn't be widely used worldwide, by Walmart for example, research your facts.

Not by that name it isn't. Perhaps you mean Powered USB, which uses a proprietary connector to provide 6A at 5V, 12V, or 24V.

Again..learn the info..you know nothing of double DIN USB, and quote misleading information.

I do? You don't even know the most basic thing about the USB protocol.

Are you a troll, or just plain ignorant?
 
Back at you.

I'm still waiting for some evidence from you. I've never seen this so called 'USB double DIN', and I know for an absolute fact you're talking complete crap saying that the host requests power.

And on the subject of PSUs: The early PS3s required at most around 230W, and had 380W PSUs. The Slim models require less than 100W and have 250W supplies. There is no need for an upgrade there.

So, please, give me some proof of your claims. Because everything I've said can be backed up right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
 
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You never saw a double DIN USB? But seem to have a professor level on USB? You are sadly informed, research Asda Tills connection methods my friends. By IBM I believe? If you have such a lack of double DIN USB, then where are you to state any USB?
 
You never saw a double DIN USB? But seem to have a professor level on USB? You are sadly informed, research Asda Tills connection methods my friends. By IBM I believe? If you have such a lack of double DIN USB, then where are you to state any USB?

Are you talking about these?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Powered_USB.jpg

Because that's called Powered USB. And yes, it's by IBM.

Just because I don't have non-standard (ie. not USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, or 3.0) USB hardware here, doesn't mean I don't know about it.

And seeing as you still don't seem to understand how normal USB handles power requirements, you're not one to talk.
 
You never saw a double DIN USB? But seem to have a professor level on USB? You are sadly informed, research Asda Tills connection methods my friends. By IBM I believe? If you have such a lack of double DIN USB, then where are you to state any USB?

Are you talking about these?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Powered_USB.jpg

Because that's called Powered USB. And yes, it's by IBM.

Just because I don't have non-standard (ie. not USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, or 3.0) USB hardware here, doesn't mean I don't know about it.

And seeing as you still don't seem to understand how normal USB handles power requirements, you're not one to talk.

So you admit its powered USB, and by IBM, so totally agree. OK.
 
You never saw a double DIN USB? But seem to have a professor level on USB? You are sadly informed, research Asda Tills connection methods my friends. By IBM I believe? If you have such a lack of double DIN USB, then where are you to state any USB?

Are you talking about these?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Powered_USB.jpg

Because that's called Powered USB. And yes, it's by IBM.

Just because I don't have non-standard (ie. not USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, or 3.0) USB hardware here, doesn't mean I don't know about it.

And seeing as you still don't seem to understand how normal USB handles power requirements, you're not one to talk.

So you admit its powered USB, and by IBM, so totally agree. OK.

.. I already mentioned Powered USB. And you ignored me and kept babbling about 'USB double DIN'. Please note the capital P. It's a name, not a description. And still you haven't justified your amazingly stupid comments about PSU upgrades and power draw being related to signalling speed. Not to mention amplifying..
 
It's a waste of type on you mate, as you can never see that you talk bunkum. You have backtracked, and referred to nothing to try to back up your argument, which doesn't add up, to be honest.
 
It's a waste of type on you mate, as you can never see that you talk bunkum. You have backtracked, and referred to nothing to try to back up your argument, which doesn't add up, to be honest.

See, this is exactly what I'm thinking about you..

Please, explain to me how a host PSU is underrated because a bus-powered hub is incapable of providing more than one unit of power to a port, and how that is linked to the speed of a device. We'll continue on from there.

Alternatively, kindly step out of the thread about a bus and protocol you do not understand.
 
A low power psu cannot provide the power to provide power to many usb devices. now go away.
 
A low power psu cannot provide the power to provide power to many usb devices. now go away.

The most USB ports I've seen on a single normal motherboard is 12. That's typically laid out into six root hubs, meaning 3A of power. At 5V, this is 15W. This is a tiny, incredibly tiny, pathetic amount of power for any computer PSU. The problem, here, is bus-powered hubs. This has nothing to do with the power supply of a computer, it's the USB protocol limiting the power available.

So, you go away.
 
So you don't know computer science? Nice one. Don't bother me again.
 
So you don't know computer science? Nice one. Don't bother me again.

And what is this meant to mean?

Once again, you barged into this thread with no idea about what is being discussed. I build computers for a living. I own more than you have fingers. So you'd best actually use some words to explain exactly how I'm going wrong, or you'll just make yourself look like an idiot.
 
So you don't know computer science? Nice one. Don't bother me again.

And what is this meant to mean?

Once again, you barged into this thread with no idea about what is being discussed. I build computers for a living. I own more than you have fingers. So you'd best actually use some words to explain exactly how I'm going wrong, or you'll just make yourself look like an idiot.

I also build computers for a living, I own more than you have fingers. Don't presume, or assume. Did you see the comment 'DON'T BOTHER ME AGAIN", or were you unable to read that?? Presumably you are illiterate, so you posted again? SO DON'T BOTHER ME AGAIN...
 

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