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It doesn't have to make sense if you are gaming the numbers to achieve a particular result.
4 Vs 5 Terminal dual-rate meter confusion
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Who will be responsible for paying for the electricity (and, if they wish, selecting the supplier and tariff) in this rental property? If the tenant then, regardless of what the the inspector might say, the ternant might not be keen on the higher electricity bills that will almost certainly result from having a dual-rate tariff without storage heaters - so might ask the supplier to change them to a single-rate tariff (and, if they wish, remove the dual-rate meter).
Kind Regards, John
Edit: Flameport types faster than I do
Well as long as it gets through the agent checks and if the tenent wants to change the tariff they can!
Frankly, if it were me, I think I would be looking for a different agent.
Kind Regards, John
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It’s not the agents fault. (Rare statement)
Who exactly requires an agent to demand a dual-tariff electricity supply, particularly when that will be to the financial detriment of tenants?
Kind Regards, John
It was the EPC inspector. As Flameport said - a complete waste of time and money but mandatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Performance_Certificate_(United_Kingdom)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Performance_Certificate_(United_Kingdom)
I was responding to Andy's comment ....
As for EPC and the EPC inspector, I thought that all that is 'mandatory' is to have a certificate, which comprises an assessment of energy performance of the property and recommendations regarding what could be done to improve it. Have I missed a ('mandatory') requirement to act upon those recommendations?
Kind Regards, John
I didnt say acting on the recommendations was mandatory.
I know you didn't, but Andy seemed to be suggesting that that the agent was 'mandating it' - which is why I said that, if I were in the OP's position, I would probably be looking for a different agent (whereupon you jumped in).
Kind Regards, John
I think we all know what EPCs are.
What seems to beggar belief is that making electricity more expensive is a recommended way of lowering the energy costs of a property.
A recommendation to install storage heaters I could understand as a way to reduce running costs, (although that makes the CO2 performance part of the EPC worse), but for the system to say that simply signing up for a dual-tariff electricity supply and not changing the type of heating will lower costs makes as much sense as charging people less road tax if they install an EV charging point but keep their existing non-EV car.
What seems to beggar belief is that making electricity more expensive is a recommended way of lowering the energy costs of a property.
A recommendation to install storage heaters I could understand as a way to reduce running costs, (although that makes the CO2 performance part of the EPC worse), but for the system to say that simply signing up for a dual-tariff electricity supply and not changing the type of heating will lower costs makes as much sense as charging people less road tax if they install an EV charging point but keep their existing non-EV car.
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It doesn't really matter what Andy seemed to be suggesting, when the OP had already stated -
Rental properties need to meet a minimum EPC band don't they? Recentish change.
THerefore OP making changes to comply with the minimum requirements
THerefore OP making changes to comply with the minimum requirements
I'm not sure why you are going on about this. What you jumped in on was my exchange with Andy about 'what he seemed to be suggesting', not the OP.
In any event, as you say, the EPC inspector 'recommended' this bizarre change, but that doesn't explain why it is being perceived that someone required/demanded that it should be done. I see a lot of EPCs and (not surprisingly, given that there will always be 'room for further improvement') I can't recall having seen one which didn't 'recommend' something - but I have never seen anyone take any notice of those recommendations, nor heard any suggestion that there is any compulsion so to do.
If we're being told the whole story, the case we are discussing seems to be totally ridiculous - changing the electricity tariff (and nothing else) will clearly change nothing other than the magnitude of electricity bills - and, in the case we are discussing, in a direction detrimental to whoever is paying.
Kind Regards, John
I think they do, but the inspector's reasoning seems flawed; both in actual practical recommendations and in implying that one may waste energy as long as it's cheap.
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