40, sorry 48 hospitals - where are they

[Deleted member 174758]

In 2019 a Tory manifesto promise was for 40 (later increased to 48) NEW hospitals, not refurbs, not repaints, but new, with the first six opening by 2025. Anyone know where these hospitals are and if work has started on any of them?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Doris and his 'promises'.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Doris and his 'promises'.

Tories always promising to lower immigration. But at the rate it keeps rising, we'll need those imaginary 40/48/4,000 new hospitals.

 

[JP_]

A friend has been working on one, for about a decade.

Aren't almost all of them just refurbs, extensions, repurposed buildings etc

 

[ellal]

Aren't almost all of them just refurbs, extensions, repurposed buildings etc

Or another untrained member of '111' apparently counts now...

Meanwhile in the real world...

"The privatisation of NHS care accelerated by Tory policies a decade ago has corresponded with a decline in quality and “significantly increased” rates of death from treatable causes, the first study of its kind says."

Add to that the deaths from welfare cuts, and the tories are probably more lethal than the 'virus'!

 

[denso13]

the 'virus'

Obsessions can be treated you know.

 

[JohnD]

Obsessions can be treated you know.

Some of the fifty thousand extra nurses could help

But they're imaginary as well.

 

[transam]

That temp tent type hospital they put up for this covid caper

That counts as a new hospital
????

 

[ajohn]

They are virtual hospitals. Must be there as Boris said they will be but we can't see or find them,

He seems to have back stepped - mentions diagnosis centres. I thought they were what GP's were for. GP's are fed up with being over worked hence harder to get an appointment. Supposed to have loads more of those too.

NHS is loosing front line staff when it needs more. Said by this lot to be down to poor management - some of that is theirs.

I suspect the extra MRI scanners are virtual too.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Aren't almost all of them just refurbs, extensions, repurposed buildings etc

But that wasn't what Johnson promised - he specifically stated that he would build NEW hospitals (like, for example the new St. Mary's Hospital and Children's Hospital were in Manchester 15 years ago) and in a filmed cabinet meeting stated that these would NOT be refurbs. Refurb work in the NHS estate is constant and never ending.

 

[ajohn]

I think 2019 is when a company building a new one went bust or it may have been a little earlier. Work it seems is starting again on it.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Or another untrained member of '111' apparently counts now...

This is something which concerns me greatly - I have in front of me a copy of a letter from the consultant surgeon who replaced a knee joint earlier this year where he states that, "...normally I woul see him 12-months post-op, but the hospital is currently changing the system for follow up and this will probably be done by a specialised nurse in future". A number of NHS staff I have tslked to have expressed disquiet at this downskilling of medicine and have stated that in their opinion it is down to insufficient numbers if training places being made available

In order to get onto a consultant's list in the first place I had to have an X-ray which was followed up by a letter from just such a "competent person" at my local hospital to my GP advising a course of action. That person never saw me in person and so could not examine me, yet on the basis of one X-ray she wrote a letter stating that my level of damage was minimal and she recommended no consultant, only increasing my pain medication and possibly attending a pain clinic. Is this what is in store for all of us in future?

Fortunately for me, I had already paid to have a qualified physiotherapist examine both my knees for arthritis and the letter she wrote to my GP was completely contrary to that of the "competent person. After an insistence on a face-to-face meeting with a GP there was finally a concensus that the hospital were wrong and that I should be referred to a consultant. I know from talking to others that I am not alone in having had to fight to get a hospital referral because the system is being dumbed down

God help anyone whi has major problems in the future - things are only going to get worse

 

[JohnD]

"The Emperor's New, er, Hospitals"

 

[ajohn]

"The Emperor's New, er, Hospitals"

10 new nuke stations at a rate of 1 per year will probably be similar to those clothes too.

 

[ellal]

Obsessions can be treated you know.

You are sadly beyond help!

Actually what am I saying...

I don't give a flying fig about an obsessive nut job such as yourself