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Hospitals & the NHS are badly run. Those in chatge need to be held accountable for mismanagement
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I feel like finding a suitable gif again.
Feel free, it will be easier that finding a link that disproves my statement.
Wrong...
Take a look at spending in relation to GDP...
It fell substantially between 1980 and 1991...
Who was in power then?
After that from 1997 to 2010 it rose massively...
Who was in power then?
Since 2010 it has fallen yet again...
Remind us who is in power at the moment!
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That is untrue.
the NHS when compared to other public health services is efficient and cost effective.
the problem is the govt is destroying the NHS to justify the case for privatisation.
the mismanagement is the Tory govt, which you vote for.
They've already been built and up and running...
In their mind...
In their mind...
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Then why is it, for example, that GP services are in crisis with insufficient numbers of GPs being trained? That's a government level issue and is indicative of poor management of the system
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I just dont understand why the UK doesnt train its own doctors and nurses
we could give them grants to encourage them.
the reason we dont is because the university system is yet another privatised business model and is creaming money off students for profits.
I've said on here before, it would be great to see a table showing all manifesto commitments made over the last century. Then, alongside, to what extent that commitment was actually delivered.
I suspect it would make for interesting reading
An interesting period. The Times thought it worth pointing out that NHS expenditure on the medical side of things was not matching inflation rates in that area - about 1/2 of it. Blare came along and did increase salaries in the area and also planned up hospitals that have been mentioned. The salaries need to be at a certain level to attract people. The hospitals were needed,
It could be said that Mrs T put the lot in a low general taxation and public debt trap so Major introduces PFI. Once in this trap any party who gets into power needs to get votes on the basis of increasing taxation. Same with public sector debt really which could be used to avoid PFI costs. We still carry the debt used for those. Typical Thatcher - hide it rather than have it on the gov's books. Privitisation does the same thing and also results in a corporation tax take, dividends etc - the general public are paying for these. There are repercussions how ever this area is handled.
It should be clear to most now that the real problem with the NHS is not enough of it - even Boris's lot accept that.
Bad management - nice easy thing to say. Any work force can be split into 2 groups. Directs - they are the people who actually do the work. Then the rest. Excesses usually relates to some areas of the rest. It's a common problem more likely as the size of an organisation grows. It is a management problem bought on by management. There can be other factors as well. Some one I know who's wife is an indirect. Hired from an agency for over 10 years permanently.
The ageing population. Interesting one. 23% of the population is over 60, go to 70 and that drops to 14%, It's under 5% at 80. Retirement age is increasing. Bright people might spot a bit of a hole in this as May did but the bulk of NHS costs are paid out of general taxation which all pay including pensioners who's income qualify. Get to an age where some one gets a state pension - it's knocked off their tax allowance.
The age %'s are what google bought up. Hospitals are not full of 70+ people. Easy to find some and makes a good excuse.
LOL Sunak - I'll knock 1p of the basic rate next year. Great help that will be wont it.
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Sometimes you have to laugh. There was a report published recently that concluded the consistency of care received by individuals from GPs could be varied due to no longer seeing the same GP year in, year out.
No sh1t Sherlock!
Ok, there have always been good and bad GPs, nobody can deny that. However it's logical that, if you have/had a good GP, it was better to see that same GP whenever you had to visit the surgery. They know you, they know your medical history (first hand, not just looking at a record) and they have directly interacted with you face to face.
What made me laugh was the report suggested it was only recently that 'the family GP' was becoming less of a thing. The demise of the family GP started years ago surely?
Let's face it, they can dress it up any way they like. The fact patients are increasingly being seen by other healthcare teams has diddly squat to do with 'improving healthcare.' It's directly down to ever decreasing GP numbers and having to find a different (not necessarily better) way to deliver care.
The person who drafted the report telling us that not seeing the same GP might be detrimental to our health is probably on mega bucks. What a funny old world we live in.
No sh1t Sherlock!
Ok, there have always been good and bad GPs, nobody can deny that. However it's logical that, if you have/had a good GP, it was better to see that same GP whenever you had to visit the surgery. They know you, they know your medical history (first hand, not just looking at a record) and they have directly interacted with you face to face.
What made me laugh was the report suggested it was only recently that 'the family GP' was becoming less of a thing. The demise of the family GP started years ago surely?
Let's face it, they can dress it up any way they like. The fact patients are increasingly being seen by other healthcare teams has diddly squat to do with 'improving healthcare.' It's directly down to ever decreasing GP numbers and having to find a different (not necessarily better) way to deliver care.
The person who drafted the report telling us that not seeing the same GP might be detrimental to our health is probably on mega bucks. What a funny old world we live in.
borrow heavily means jam today, votes today and massive debt tomorrow when its another governments problemI mean, why don't Boris just build them under the PFI agreements like Brown conned us all with?
It will look great, never mind paying for them for the next 40 years.
PFIs are a massive cost out of NHS budgets
I thought it was more Blair than Brown, or do you mean Brown was chancellor
PFI was introduced by Major. I've explained why it's difficult to change once things for a variety of reasons go this way.
LOL take no notice and carry on finger pointing and don't bother asking if the hospitals are needed or suggest other ways of paying for them. Simple minds = simple finger pointing.
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