A number of asylum

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Seekers ( 18?) are on hunger strike as they are going to be deported to Rwanda they said they would rather die than go to Rwanda ?
It's hard for me to imagine why you would volunteer to starve yourself when you have escaped from war and starvation once already
 
we should accept some refugees, that’s what decent countries do.

it’s illegal to send them to Rwanda, it’s just a dead cat to appeal to the base - it won’t be successful, as Australia proves
In other words ukraine and other european refugees are welcome and everyone else is going for a trip to Rwanda
 
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This is a deterant. So far seems to be working... the way I understand is that once in Rwanda they are free to leave. Then they can start all over again.
second time they don't get a parachute
 
But how will they learn this?
I don't think papers like the Mail and Express are available in Africa and the BBC has a limited reach. And even then, what would you do when faced with famine, drought, war and all the problems faced by these people.

By exactly the same route the information takes to get to them, that UK life is an easy life for asylum seekers.
 
Legal terms so some can have a clearer idea about what they are talking about

What is a refugee

Definition: Refugees are people fleeing armed conflicts or persecution. There were 19,5 million of them worldwide at the end of 2014 according to UNHCR. Their situation is so perilous that they cross national borders to seek safety in nearby countries and become recognised as refugees with access to assistance from states and aid organisations.

An important piece of this is that refugees are protected by international law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention. But even the terms refugee and asylum seeker are often confused.


What is an asylum seeker​

Definition: An asylum seeker is someone who claims to be a refugee but whose claim hasn’t been evaluated. This person would have applied for asylum on the grounds that returning to his or her country would lead to persecution on account of race, religion, nationality or political beliefs.

Someone is an asylum seeker for so long as their application is pending. So not every asylum seeker will be recognised as a refugee, but every refugee is initially an asylum seeker.

What is a migrant​

Definition: Migrants choose to move not because of a direct threat or persecution but mainly to improve their lives:
  • Finding work
  • Seeking better education
  • Reuniting with family
Unlike refugees who cannot safely return home, migrants can return home if they wish. This distinction is important for governments, since countries handle migrants under their own immigration laws and processes.

Boat people in real terms are asylum seekers. Some will be classed as refugees some may not be.
 
By exactly the same route the information takes to get to them, that UK life is an easy life for asylum seekers.
yeah, Mottie's already pointed that out - but we already have reports that an asylum seeker has less of an easy life than the tabloids would have you believe. Kept in little more than prison, or at least Borstal, conditions, and driven through a process that would make Kafka weep with despair.
And as Minj eeta pointed out; this country is tripping over itself to bring Ukrainians over here while African and Middle Easterners are not welcomed to the same extent. You can see why the UK is accused of institutionalised racism when you put these two side-by-side.
 
And as Minj eeta pointed out; this country is tripping over itself to bring Ukrainians over here while African and Middle Easterners are not welcomed to the same extent. You can see why the UK is accused of institutionalised racism when you put these two side-by-side.

The reason for the apparent bias is obvious - The Ukrainians are westernised and better able to fit in with UK society, most are not adult male and are obviously not economic migrants.
 
We do not accept any by legal means

so that’s your argument gone in a second

1. People granted protection and other leave through asylum and resettlement routes​

This section covers individuals granted leave to remain in the UK via three routes: applying for asylum, resettlement, and family reunion visas.

The UK offered protection, in the form of asylum, humanitarian protection, alternative forms of leave and resettlement, to 14,734 people (including dependants) in 2021. Of these:

  • 81% were granted refugee status following an asylum application (‘asylum’)
  • 6% were granted humanitarian protection
  • 2% were granted alternative forms of leave (such as discretionary leave, UASC leave)
  • 11% were granted refugee status through resettlement schemes
Additionally, 6,134 partners and children of refugees living in the UK were granted entry to the UK through family reunion visas, 28% more than the previous year.
 
The reason for the apparent bias is obvious - The Ukrainians are westernised and better able to fit in with UK society, most are not adult male and are obviously not economic migrants.
In these 'woke' days you aren't seriously suggesting that females get preferential treatment to men are you?
If the men are lgbt+ does that make any difference?
 
The reason for the apparent bias is obvious - The Ukrainians are westernised and better able to fit in with UK society, most are not adult male and are obviously not economic migrants.
You say 'bias' - some say 'prejudice'.
You say most are not adult males without any evidence when a good number of migrants appear to be families, or did those children turn up without any support?
You say obviously not economic migrants, when a good number of Africans are fleeing conflicts in sub-Saharan Africa, and the spreading numbers of Islamic Fundamentalists who do not tolerate Africans at all.

I'd say your gammon is showing, old chap.
 

1. People granted protection and other leave through asylum and resettlement routes​

This section covers individuals granted leave to remain in the UK via three routes: applying for asylum, resettlement, and family reunion visas.

The UK offered protection, in the form of asylum, humanitarian protection, alternative forms of leave and resettlement, to 14,734 people (including dependants) in 2021. Of these:

  • 81% were granted refugee status following an asylum application (‘asylum’)
  • 6% were granted humanitarian protection
  • 2% were granted alternative forms of leave (such as discretionary leave, UASC leave)
  • 11% were granted refugee status through resettlement schemes
Additionally, 6,134 partners and children of refugees living in the UK were granted entry to the UK through family reunion visas, 28% more than the previous year.

It says 81% were granted refugee status, yet most news items i see still refer to them as migrants.
When is a migrant not a refugee? Both have to look for some sort of work to support themselves when they are granted leave to stay in this country....or all they all adding to the numbers of "idlers and work-shy" as Andy11 insists?
 
In these 'woke' days you aren't seriously suggesting that females get preferential treatment to men are you?
If the men are lgbt+ does that make any difference?


They need to prove that they are LBGT or gay in front of a panel
 
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