A Ring Main with a Ring Spur, anyone heard of this being done?

[ElectricsRanger]

You should not confuse EMI with EMF. My understanding is that the Graham/Steitzer filter has been discredited. See for example http://www.emfandhealth.com/EHS Scams.html

I met a university professor some years ago who spent some time expounding his "scientific proof" that the Earth is flat, and it is only the effect of "circular magnetic fields" that makes us think otherwise.

Ive just read the page you have listed, and while i think some of the items they list there, could be sold under misleading facts, such as stick on devices that absorb or dissolved mobile phone microwave radiation.

A person who has the equipment and understanding can make a decision for them selves, but also the evidence documented by Dr Magda Havas PhD, has shown that this issue with electricity and effects of Electronic equipment, dirty electric, bluetooth and wifi based products, and wireless home phones especially dect phones, do make a difference to peoples health.

This video she uploaded by her, shows blood evidence thats possibly been seen before by other doctors who have reviewed blood under the microscope, but possibly didn't know why.

Dr. Magda Havas' Live Blood & Electrosmog.mp4

Dr Magda Havas, PhD - Multiple Sclerosis & Dirty Electricity

http://www.magdahavas.com/

I have three of those Dirty Electric Filters, and they have made a noticeable difference on my PC and plasma tv equipment in the living room, which most importantly i can feel. They cost me £150 for three, and they make a noticeable difference for others who live in the house. I even performed a blind test, by remove them and asking people if they felt different, and they noticed the difference, they felt more peaceful and relaxed when they were re-inserted in to the mains, with the equipment on and in the same state before and after they were re-inserted.

This is advanced science we are discussing, the basic science of apples falling is much easier to prove. The fact that we have scientific communities launching particles around the Large Hadron Collider should be enough to know that is not all what we can see.

I would say just gravity.

Otherwise, how come it can rotate either way?

Thats an interesting point. I sore it on tv and it looked plausible, but it could have been a trick.

Update:::
It looks like it could be more plausible than just a trick... the small details of the world do make a difference, and this video shows that its not completely impossible. the guy used the same sink, and it looks plausible, like static on a nylon rod.

How does water drain at the equator? (Original)

 

[JohnD]

the number of people killed by dirty electricity is nothing. Think of the fatalities caused by dihydrogen monoxide. It was even used by Russian athletes at the Stratford Olympics.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

That's due to the Coriolis effect, and gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect#Draining_in_bathtubs_and_toilets

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Hi, are you saying 100Hz as a peak to peak value?

No - it's 100Hz (or 0Hz) all of the time. p-p frequency values would only make sense wrt frequency modulation.

The growing scientific & medical research showing that there is a growing link for certain groups of people.

No.

There.

Is.

Not.

Dr Magda Havas from Canada, who has been researching the effects for a many years, has shown credible evidence on the issues of EMI, and negative effects.

No.

She.

Has.

Not.

I even performed a blind test, by remove them and asking people if they felt different

No.

You.

Did.

Not.

This is advanced science we are discussing

No.

It.

Is.

Not.

This is not mind over matter

Yes.

It.

Is.

 

[stillp]

That's due to the Coriolis effect, and gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect#Draining_in_bathtubs_and_toilets

Ah, so my geography teacher was wrong!

 

[EFLImpudence]

If that's what he told you, yes.

From your link:
Should I have read further? Or have I missed something?
"Contrary to popular misconception, water rotation in home bathrooms under normal circumstances is not related to the Coriolis effect or to the rotation of the earth, and no consistent difference in rotation direction between toilet drainage in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres can be observed."

 

[stillp]

EFLI, that's BAS' link, but that sentence you quoted appears to debunk the connection to the Coriolos efffect. However I'm sure you'll agree that the rotation of water going down the drain is not caused by the Earth's magnetic field.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I remember being told it too.

All those generations believing something which simple maths shows couldn't possibly be right.

And don't get me started on "I before E except after C".

 

[EFLImpudence]

EFLI, that's BAS' link, but that sentence you quoted appears to debunk the connection to the Coriolos efffect. However I'm sure you'll agree that the rotation of water going down the drain is not caused by the Earth's magnetic field.

Ah. sorry.

Yes, I do agree.

My bath water does not rotate.
I can make it rotate either way by hand.

I put this down to the bath being perfectly level.

 

[JohnW2]

My bath water does not rotate.

I'd be surprised if that were really true, although the roatation might only be apparent when the bath has almost emptied.

I can make it rotate either way by hand.

That's always been the case, and once you start it rotating in one direction by hand, that rotation becomes self-sustaining. The 'myth' (about north/south hemispheres etc.) related to the situation in which the water was totally undisturbed by local influences (like EFLI's hand).

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

My bath water does not rotate.

I'd be surprised if that were really true,

You shall be surprised, then.

although the rotation might only be apparent when the bath has almost emptied.

Nope.

I've just had a bath even though not due until the 20th.

Who's bored??

 

[stillp]

You need to get out more.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Went out once; didn't like it.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Ah - did you go out not wearing your tinfoil trolleys?

 

[stillp]

I wonder if Russ Andrews is aware of "dirty electric". I'm sure he could make a gold-plated cryogenically treated filter for only a few thousand pounds.