Albanians and crime a real problem.

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sodthisforfun said:
Right. This is very different to your 'there is insufficient boarder personnel'.
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The Home Office is failing to keep track of how many customsofficers it has despite warnings of chaos at Britain’s ports and airports in the event of a looming “no deal” Brexit.
Officials admitted to The Independent that they were unable to provide a count of the number of border officials employed for customs checks and they were unsure of whether the number had increased or decreased in recent years.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rope-ports-airports-home-office-a8456881.html
The Home Office will not be able to meet the challenges of Brexit without “a considerable increase in resources” over and above its current 6,500 staff, two former senior immigration officials have told MPs.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/10/home-office-increase-staff-brexit-mps
A HUGE number of border guards need to be hired by MARCH to avoid customs chaos on Brexit in 2019, officials claim.
MPs were warned today that unless the Government sanctioned a “considerable” recruitment drive, Border Force will not have the manpower to cope with the extra checks required.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4657146/brexit-border-force-staff-increase-recruitment-immigration/

With the predicted border delays, the lorry parks, the lack of checks on incoming traffic, the required HUGE increase in staff, and the shambles of Brexit, I think we can confidently predict that it will be easier for immigrants to gain entry to UK, whether they are entitled or not.
In fact, it is probably the ones with the correct documentation, following the correct procedure (if there is one) will be the ones most inconvenienced.
 
sodthisforfun said:
Right. This is very different to your 'there is insufficient boarder personnel
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Yes, its scaremongering.

Heres one of the links:

The UK government is reportedly considering making Britain's borders completely open to the European Union after Brexit if it crashes out of negotiations with no deal in place.

So what borders are there currently with the EU?

What borders are there between European countries in mainland Europe?

Where does it mention people? Its talking about goods.

As usual George doesnt put his brain in gear before posting, hes too busy point scoring o_O
 
IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rope-ports-airports-home-office-a8456881.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/10/home-office-increase-staff-brexit-mps

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4657146/brexit-border-force-staff-increase-recruitment-immigration/

With the predicted border delays, the lorry parks, the lack of checks on incoming traffic, the required HUGE increase in staff, and the shambles of Brexit, I think we can confidently predict that it will be easier for immigrants to gain entry to UK, whether they are entitled or not.
In fact, it is probably the ones with the correct documentation, following the correct procedure (if there is one) will be the ones most inconvenienced.
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Predicted..
Nostradamus is alive and kicking! 'There is insufficient boarder personnel' you say. I will wait to see what actually happens before I make statements like you have.
 
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gasbanni said:
https://www.rt.com/uk/427540-gangs-crime-drugs-london-albanian/


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/albanian-gangs-control-uk-cocaine-market-says-agency


I was told by a magistrate that in Bradford where she serves the local drugs dealers are very scared of the Albanians because of their violence she told me when one appears in the courts all his friends turn up in the public gallery she said they're all in black leather jackets and they all stare at the magistrates with the intention of intimidating them. She also remarked they generally they were handsome. I'm just relaying here what a magistrate told me. She was quite attractive and said it was her way of paying back to society as she had had and had a priveleged life.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-in-illegal-picture-in-his-cell-a3752116.html

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/paakyv/the-rise-and-rise-of-britains-albanian-coke-dealers
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The reason there has been a massive growth in the number of foreign criminals operating in the UK is simply because they are allowed entry under the freedom of movement laws, there was a time when you had to obtain a visa to enter the UK ,if you were deemed to be of bad character you didn't get a visa.
Nowadays the government has all but abandoned the idea of border controls, as far as I am aware Albania isn't even a member of the EU so how on earth are people who are obviously criminals allowed to enter the UK to engage in crime
 
vinty said:
The reason there has been a massive growth in the number of foreign criminals operating in the UK is simply because they are allowed entry under the freedom of movement laws, there was a time when you had to obtain a visa to enter the UK ,if you were deemed to be of bad character you didn't get a visa.
Nowadays the government has all but abandoned the idea of border controls, as far as I am aware Albania isn't even a member of the EU so how on earth are people who are obviously criminals allowed to enter the UK to engage in crime
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Simply a lack of interest or desire by the government, to enforce the rules.
 
gasbanni said:
https://www.rt.com/uk/427540-gangs-crime-drugs-london-albanian/


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/albanian-gangs-control-uk-cocaine-market-says-agency


I was told by a magistrate that in Bradford where she serves the local drugs dealers are very scared of the Albanians because of their violence she told me when one appears in the courts all his friends turn up in the public gallery she said they're all in black leather jackets and they all stare at the magistrates with the intention of intimidating them. She also remarked they generally they were handsome. I'm just relaying here what a magistrate told me. She was quite attractive and said it was her way of paying back to society as she had had and had a priveleged life.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-in-illegal-picture-in-his-cell-a3752116.html

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/paakyv/the-rise-and-rise-of-britains-albanian-coke-dealers
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May be a true story. It may not.

I only know 1 albanian. A very nice person, self employed plasterer, with english wife (teacher) and 2 very well mannered kids. What does that prove? Not much, just that not all immigrants and criminals, are bad people.

I dont understand why anybody would think british criminals are better than others. To me, criminals are criminals. The only difference being the crimes committed.

As for the albanians being worse, according to the report linked to, it doesn't actually support that. Another headline not supported by the story
 
Yafo said:
I dont understand why anybody would think british criminals are better than others. To me, criminals are criminals. The only difference being the crimes committed.
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Nobody said that British criminals are better as far as I know so that's probably why you don't understand it.. And please explain what you mean by 'the only difference being the crimes committed'.
 
Yafo said:
I dont understand why anybody would think british criminals are better than others. To me, criminals are criminals. The only difference being the crimes committed.
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I think he is saying that the 61.9% of British criminals come from (a guess) 98% of the population that are English.

The other 38.1% of criminals come from (another guess) 2% of the population that are not English.
 
Yafo said:
I only know 1 albanian. A very nice person, self employed plasterer, with english wife
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I've met at least 3. All 3 good people.
1 I was looking for houses in my area that suited his budget.


Yafo said:
I dont understand why anybody would think british criminals are better than others. To me, criminals are criminals. The only difference being the crimes committed.
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Regardless we have home grown criminals. Why on earth would you want foreign criminals. Its not a quota system. We would still have as many British criminals regardless
 
vinty said:
The reason there has been a massive growth in the number of foreign criminals operating in the UK is simply because they are allowed entry under the freedom of movement laws, there was a time when you had to obtain a visa to enter the UK ,if you were deemed to be of bad character you didn't get a visa.
Nowadays the government has all but abandoned the idea of border controls, as far as I am aware Albania isn't even a member of the EU so how on earth are people who are obviously criminals allowed to enter the UK to engage in crime
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They get passports made in Greece or other countries. Getting a passport made with false details is probably easier than you think.

As they say in Mexico it's the bullet or money.
 
Bodd said:
The report says Albanians make up just 0.8% of organised criminals in the UK, behind British nationals (61.6%); unknown nationalities (23.5%); Romanians (1.5%); Pakistanis (1.2%) and Polish (0.9%).

And that's OK with you. Walaa
(61.6%) are British nationals ;

If there was no foreign criminals at all then that would make 100% British nationals. I'd be happier with that.

Why do you stick up for foreign criminals by stating there are more British up to no good.

Every country has its home grown criminals Why on earth would you want more from over seas.

Deport them all
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You should know by now that whataboutery is the best you'll get from wanna.
 
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