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And I'll repeat this again...
Dying with the 'virus' or dying because of the virus?
Because figures are mainly compiled using the former...
And many complain about the inconsistency of reporting by country/local regions...
Care to comment on whether dying with the 'virus' is the right way to record the lethality of the 'virus'?
If the ONS can get something wrong by such a large margin because they hadn't done the research, why did they release that scaremongering figure?
Thus I'll also keep repeating, when the research has been done properly I'll make my own personal decisions but not until then...
I fail to see why that is such an alien concept to so many, not only on here but in the wider population!
Do you even know what a systematic review is without looking it up?
You should look it up though, it will explain exactly why what you're asking for, a systematic reviews being published before other smaller studies, is impossible.
How about the concept of reviewing the facts over a period of time with adequate control groups put in place before releasing panic figures?
The latest ONS analysis asked two groups of people - those who had tested positive for coronavirus and those who had not - whether they had:
- fever
- headache
- muscle ache
- weakness
- tiredness
- nausea
- abdominal pain
- diarrhoea
- sore throat
- cough
- shortness of breath
- loss of taste
- loss of smell
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No answer to my question. That's a bit impolite given your demand I answered yours. It is very relevant with your reference to a control group.
Your refusal to make a decision on a topic is itself a decision. For an example of how to manage information in a uncertain world well look at the SAGE minutes. They describe what they believe is happening and the level of confidence they have in it.
Which analysis are you describing? I may have missed the link.
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Priceless....
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Don't believe the BBC but rely on the Hindustan Times. This gets funnier by the day.....
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Liar.
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Good old BBC, can't live with them, can't live without them...
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Give me 4% of your money then
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Why are you repeating it? You already know the answer. But you chose to deny it. Stop be a silly billy!
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No, not really.
But here's a thing. Excess deaths. Now, I asked you this before, and you refused to answer it, as it blew your whole wacky covid denying argument out of the water. But have a go again ... if the highly contagious and deadly disease called covid, that started in Feb/March last year, was not killing all these additional people, what was the cause of death?
(what's the betting Ellal ignores this and starts calling us stupid sheeple again?)
And this is a good one, as it more clearly shows that even more people are dying of other causes than normal, as well as covid, which suggests quite clearly that covid is not always put on the death certificate. So there goes that argument too.
Well, I'm willing to look at Ellals's "evidence."
What is the number of deaths that, in his "opinion," are "correctly" due to the virus?
And where is the "evidence" supporting his opinion?
Yes, go on @ellal, show us your "facts," "evidence" and "honesty."
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Yes, but that second graph is from April 2020, when it just started to take hold. So long term healthcare problems cannot be to blame for that.
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